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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 November 07 13:59 GMT (UK) »
This thread is interesting as I have my maternal grandparents educational papers.  Altho' my grandmother started in the cotton mills at 10 years old she was half-timing and at the age of 13 had reached Grade 1V and was suitable for full time employment.

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CLEGG,BINNS Rochdale
PATTESON-BLACKWELL  Rochdale
PATTESON,SMITH  Bury and Manchester
GARNER, ALLEN Manchehster/Ireland
HARTLEY, Burnley
BLACKWALL/WELL Hereford City, Herefordshire
COLLINS   Leominster, Herefordshire
ARMSTRONG   Orleton, Herefordshire
LLOYD  Orleton, Herefordshire
THOMPSON   Barrow-in-Furness, Lancashire
THOMPSON   Dromara, Co. Down, N. Ireland
CAMPBELL   Dromara, Down and Co. Tyrone N Ireland
FISHER   Pennsyvania and Ohio  USA
MARKS   Pennsylvania USA

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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 25 November 07 14:16 GMT (UK) »
It would be interesting to know what 'standard' the kids had to reach to be level !V, V etc.  Doesn't it sound horribly similar to the current system of Key Stage this & that??
I'm glad your lad got through the system of the day intact, Joan - gives us beleaguered parents hope! My youngest is regularly flagged up for 'intervention' because he 'doesn't pay attention and often sits staring out of the window'. Sound to me as if he's bored but what do I know, I'm only his mother  >:( 

Sorry for off-topic rant - I feel better now!

 :) Barbara
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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 November 07 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi all....I've just been having a quick search on GOOGLE BOOKS and there are some interesting journals there for anyone interested in old educational matters.  One in particular
seems to be 1860-1863 (ish) and refers to IV levels etc.

REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL ON EDUCATION - 
This link takes you to p307 but the article starts on p305 so click back a few pages)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/029f/

and Index of the whole journal is
http://www.rootschat.com/links/029f/


ALSO -other issues of the Journal of the British and Foreign School Society 1857 with lots of education related articles
http://www.rootschat.com/links/029h/

and 1929

http://www.rootschat.com/links/029i/ 


For those who don't know google books - it is lots of books which have been digitised and can be searched - mainly old ones.  go to ...http://books.google.co.uk

I just did a quick search but I bet there are lots of interesting items on educational matters - it is just a matter of finding the right search terms.

MILLY

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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 20:35 BST (UK) »
I have been reading this interesting thread and looking too at the various links given. The reason being that I have just discovered that my great grandfather's brother was admitted to Ardwick Green Industrial School in 1873. I assume that this was because he was considered to be in need of some level of discipline rather than simply be pursuing his education. Will I be able to learn any more and, if so, where should I apply for information? Someone referred to the Manchester Library having more records; would this be Central Library? I would like admission and discharge details if possible. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated as this line in my research is a brick wall as all but this sibling (and their parents) died relatively young. This boy is the one I have not found any marriage or death for so I would like to put his story together if I can.
AVERY, Berks, BLUNDELL, North Meols, BOND, Wilts,  BRUNDRETT, Lancs, CHORLTON, Salford, DUNKLEY, West Haddon, FOGGIN, Yorks, GRANT, Durham,  GRESTY, Salford, GRINDROD, Salford, HUMM, Bethnal Green, MALONEY, Limerick & Lancs,  MARCHANT, Worcs, McPHERSON, Kent, MELLISH, Finsbury, PERRETT, Wilts,  RAGG, Yorks, RAINSFORD, Staffs, RENSHAW, Salford, ROSS, Leicester, TIGHE/TYE, All, WELLER, Berks, WILKINSON, Wes
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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 20:50 BST (UK) »
It would be interesting to know what 'standard' the kids had to reach to be level !V, V etc.  Doesn't it sound horribly similar to the current system of Key Stage this & that??
I'm glad your lad got through the system of the day intact, Joan - gives us beleaguered parents hope! My youngest is regularly flagged up for 'intervention' because he 'doesn't pay attention and often sits staring out of the window'. Sound to me as if he's bored but what do I know, I'm only his mother  >:( 

Sorry for off-topic rant - I feel better now!

 :) Barbara

I have a child who was also "flagged up" at school and in there chosen profession they have come top in the UK this year so don't give up hope.

Back to topic FindMyPast has released some School Records including Lancashire and Cheshire this week

Mo
Harrison,  Lancs
Phillips, Bucks/Chesh
Holgate, Lancs/Chesh
Etchells, Chesh/Lancs
Schneider, India

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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 20:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you Mo; I will have a look.
Chirp
AVERY, Berks, BLUNDELL, North Meols, BOND, Wilts,  BRUNDRETT, Lancs, CHORLTON, Salford, DUNKLEY, West Haddon, FOGGIN, Yorks, GRANT, Durham,  GRESTY, Salford, GRINDROD, Salford, HUMM, Bethnal Green, MALONEY, Limerick & Lancs,  MARCHANT, Worcs, McPHERSON, Kent, MELLISH, Finsbury, PERRETT, Wilts,  RAGG, Yorks, RAINSFORD, Staffs, RENSHAW, Salford, ROSS, Leicester, TIGHE/TYE, All, WELLER, Berks, WILKINSON, Wes
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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 21:00 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have managed to get a copy of an admission register page for Manchester Certified Industrial School, Ardwick Green.

On his arrival under "Educational State" on admission it says

Reads       I

Writes       I

Calculates I

Does anyone know what "I" meant as opposed to yes or no  ???

Thanks
Joan


I think it means "Infant" standard
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