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Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« on: Saturday 24 November 07 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have managed to get a copy of an admission register page for Manchester Certified Industrial School, Ardwick Green.

On his arrival under "Educational State" on admission it says

Reads       I

Writes       I

Calculates I

Does anyone know what "I" meant as opposed to yes or no  ???

Thanks
Joan

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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 November 07 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Joan

What a fantastic find.  Could it mean intermediate as in beginner, intermediate or advanced.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 November 07 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have managed to get a copy of an admission register page for Manchester Certified Industrial School, Ardwick Green.

On his arrival under "Educational State" on admission it says

Reads       I

Writes       I

Calculates I

Does anyone know what "I" meant as opposed to yes or no  ???

Thanks
Joan
Hello Treelover,
http://www.missing-ancestors.com/ALPHABETICAL%20LIST%20OF%20ALL%20SCHOOLS.htm
Here is a site which is quite comprehensive, I have however not been able to establish your question re th "I"s, and can only hazard a guess. that there were letters for the pupils state of mind when they were assessing them. may be "I" meant Intelligent, Intermediate etc;  and "U" unintelligent, and other letters relating to their historical (past) attitudes before they were admitted.
There is a comprehensive list of schools and the Counties and Towns where they existed.
It is possible you could locate the school & from details you may already have,  note what remedial treatment the schools treated them.

Best Wishes
Raphael
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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 November 07 22:00 GMT (UK) »
HI,

Err, definately not advanced.   Rest of Report reads

Previous character = not very good

Previous instruction (schooling)   3 - 4 years  (he was 12)

Mental capacity = poor

Can you use the work illiterate for all the three Rs?

Joan


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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 November 07 23:38 GMT (UK) »
Were there any other entries on the page with other letters by any chance?  Might be able to work it out from what they are?

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McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 November 07 00:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Milly,

Sorry, I only took a photocopy of the page I wanted.  (Spent 4 hours at Manchester Library today). 

Stiff neck, tired eyes and, I think, ready for my bed.

Joan  :)

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 November 07 00:55 GMT (UK) »
Shame.  Perhaps it was a one rather than "I" ?

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McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 November 07 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

http://www.manchester-family-history-research.co.uk/new_page_2.htm

this is a link to an introductory page for the 'UKSearch' website "A Site Designed and Constructed by a Mancunian".  Good on you UK Search!  :D
He or she cites examples of records taken from the Industrial School at Ardwick Green. They include mentions of education to 'Grade III' and 'Grade VI' on leaving the school. So Milly's suggestion of Roman number I rather than capital letter I is looking good.

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Re: Industrial school admission can someone explain this please?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 November 07 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barbara,

That really sounds good.  Which means, at level I, he couldn't read, write or calculate - fits in perfectly.

You will be happy to know after he left there he got a decent job and brought up a great family.  (Not mine)  ;D

Thanks
Joan