Gloucester - vanishing pubs!

[Keziahemm]

Until about 10 years ago the Severn Bore pub was called The Bird in Hand.

Was closed for a while this year now open under new management.

A good place to look for information and history on Gloucestershire pubs, when it's up and running again, http://www.easywell.co.uk/pubs/

Susan 

[Arranroots]

Hi Susan

I don't suppose you remember what it was called in the census?? 

Sorry to mislead you Sprout - must have been another one in the vicinity I guess.

Susan and I could do a spot of detective work around the local bars ...

(I did notice a Ship in Newnham, but that is a wee bit further away than you would like)

Any other ideas Susan?

[Keziahemm]

Have been looking at a history of Minsterworth - The Bird in Hand was in being as early as 1831 and the licensees are recorded from 1856.  There is Mermaid Cottage at the Naight once thought to have been a river side inn.

Will do some more digging;  all this talk of pubs and me being tea total   

Susan

[Sprout]

Thanks for the help you two......Susan have a lemonade on me. Meantime I've dropped anchor and gone fishing.....

[Keziahemm]

Cheers Sprout 

Have been looking at later census (1881-1901) for any clues as to which house could be the Ship Inn where George Gough was in 1861.  I'm pretty confident it's one of the cottages at the Naight, an area near the river, so conceivably this could be Mermaid Cottage, to confuse things this was formerly called Memorial Cottage!

Naight House is named on the census, 1901 the parish clerk Wintour Stephens is in residence RG13/2418 folio 41 page 4, he was parish clerk from 1883-1908.

In 1871, 1881 and 1891 Naight House was the home of Richard Clifford Stephens.

There are several cottages either side, in 1881 in address all it says is N.K., very helpful    (RG11/2525 folio 115 page 9).

1891 there are three cottages enumerated as The Naight and two Naight Cottage (RG12/2007 folio 91 page 9).

Not much further forward but I believe in the right area of Minsterworth to be your Ship Inn. 

Regards

Susan

[Sprout]

Appreciate your work....make it a lemonade AND packet of crisps.

[Gillg]

There is another pub in Minsterworth now called The Apple Tree, address aptly Watery Lane GL1 8JQ, but it's not as close to the river as the Severn Bore.

The district is famous for its apples, see
http://www.orchard-group.uklinux.net/glos/apples/index.php

Unless your Ship Inn is no longer an inn, I would go for the Severn Bore, where you can sit sipping your cider and watching surfers fall over on the Big Wave.

Cheers,

Gillg

[Keziahemm]

Hi

As mentioned in earlier post the Severn Bore is out of the equation as it was formerly The Bird in Hand from c 1831, also falls within the boundary of Westbury on Severn parish.  The Apple Tree didn't become an inn until the early 1900s, both of these pubs are on the main A48 road.

According to 1861 census the Ship Inn was in the area of the Naight, a part of Minsterworth village off the main road down towards the Church and The Street, a very pretty area near to the river Severn.

I still believe the best option is Mermaid Cottage at the Naight, which, according to locals, was formerly a river-side inn.

Sprout is going to have a good time viewing these places 

Regards

Susan 

[Sprout]

I think you're proabably right Susan but I have one further explanation: Having just 'google-mapped' the area, there seems to be a carpark (probably for the church) two cottages to the left (west?) of Naight House. The Ship Inn was also two cottages away from Naight House on the 1861 census. Ergo whatsit....the Ship Inn was where the carpark is now!
What do you think Miss Marple? I could send you a concrete drill - the anchor might still be underneath?
Sprout.