Barr Family

[Rae33]

Hi Ann
Thanks for the info re James' death.  Shame it doesn't give a first wife's name, now we still don't know who John (6) in 1851 belongs to. Could you tell me what James' occupation is shown as on the cert and his address?
When I was working on his being married to Jean Knox, I obtained their daughter Mary's marriage cert when she married James Wills in 1865.  Mary gave her father's occ as 'shawl manufacturer'.  She was living at 144 George St and James Wills was living at 63 George Street.  Interesting that the bro-in-law is yet another James Robertson.  Couldn't you just shake them that they didn't give them an outstanding second name - better still their mother's maiden name. I haven't found any of the sisters married to a Robertson yet.  It could be a sister of Isabella O'Hara who married a Robertson.
I have worked on that 1841 census for Barbara.  Her father was James Robertson and her mother Agnes Tarbert/Tarber.
Extracted marriage M116434 James Robertson and Agnes Tarbert 4 Jun 1820 East Kilbride Lanark.
Extracted christeneing C116434 Barbara Robertson 3 Jun 1821 East Kilbride Lanark.
LGS member submits -
Barbara Robertson b 29 Apr 1820 ch 20 May 1820 East Kilbride Lanark
Margaret Robertson - same as above (maybe twins)
Agnes Robertson b 6 Jul 1823 ch 13 Jul 1823 East Kilbride Lanark
 Best wishes....Rae

[Ann Baker]

Hi Rae

He was a shawl weaver and his address at death was 7 Bridge St. Bridge St is right next to Paisley Abbey. At that time tho it was all slum housing - long gone now. I have other rellies who lived there - funnily enough O;Haras. Not sure if my other ones and James' Mrs are connected. So far not found anything.

Thanks ever so for checking out that 1841. Can't be our Barbara then . Interesting it does say for her she was born out of county but not her 2 sisters and no Margaret on the census but she could well have left home or died even.

James' 3rd child Mary married an Archibald Russell in 1878 and they had 6 children (well I've found 6 so far).

Like you I am still wondering who those Robertson grandchildren on that 1851 belong to. Will we find out? I do hope so. Won;t be for want of trying 

Best Wishes

Ann

[Ann Baker]

Rae

Some good news.

I have confimed that William (the Helen Barr one) IS the guy born in 1777 parents William (dee :)p joy! and Elizabeth Ewart). Have found another 5 siblings so looking at them at mo to see if can find any more clues.

Am pleased I have a gtx5 grandpa confirmed

Ann

[Rae33]

Hi Ann
Well done! That's wonderful news - another generation revealed. This is the same one on the IGI that gave only the father's name as William and no mother's name. I have checked the IGI and found the five siblings. There are a few variations on the spelling of the surname Ewart, they don't make it easy do they.
I don't know what happened but I missed seeing the email notification for this post or I'd have answered by return - I am really thrilled.
Ref your previous post, thanks for the details of James' address, I doubt he is the same James married to Jane Knox. Do you think Isabella's parents are John and Mary O'Harra at Cotton Street in 1841 - though the daughter is Anabella aged 7.

Thanks again for the info and happy delving........Rae

[Ann Baker]

Hi Rae

Funny I'm not getting messages either so am having to remember to check!

Those Oh'hara could be Isabella's parents (She does show up as Elizabeth on some records tho which is a pain).

Her parents were John O;Hara and Mary Sweenie accoprding to the death cert. I've not looked for any of her lot yet tho I will cos I have O'Haras (Daniel O'Hara who married and Elizabeth Wilson who are my gt x 3 grandparents) in my direct line.

Would be funny tho if they did turn out to be related cos the Daniel O'Haras are mum's dad's side and this lot mum's mum's.

I've also got a Che;sea Pensioner lead to look up for William 1777 and his brother James (seems he was in the army too)

Ann

[Rae33]

Hi Ann
I thought they may be the O'Hara family because Isabella has named one of the girls Catherine and she had a sister Cathrine.
Good luck with your lead on the Chelsea pensioner. I looked on the national archives and couldn't decide whether William b1777 was the one born in Bunhill served in the 83rd foot regiment 1797 - no discharge date but would be c1828 or the one born Renfrew served in 2nd dragoons 1794-1821. I wonder if your William b1806 was in the army at some time though I couldnt see him at the Paisley barracks in 1841.
Will be interested to hear what you find.

Regards....Rae

[Rae33]

Hello Ann
You have probably found this already but I came across William Robertson and Elizabeth Youart's marriage purely by accident - under Robison -
William Robison married Elizabeth Youart 2 Dec 1774 Parish Inchinnan
County Renfrew GROS Data 566/0010 0164
and another daughter
Elizabeth Ewart Robison Birth 24 Nov 1791 Chr 27 Nov 1791 Kilmacolm, Renfrew, Scotland
IGI extracted birth Batch no C115692
The first Elizabeth must have died.
I have seen the Robison name come up but haven't always checked it so will have to in future.
Rae

[cavers89]

 I have a James Barr born, probably anywhere around 1740 to 1760, around Huston, Kilbarchan,  Lochwinnoch area.  he had a Daughter Jannet Barr born 1775 in Lochwinnoch,   He later married a Jannet Lindsay in 1791 in Huston, then had children Robert b.1792, Jean b.1794, Robert b.1796, James b.1799. 
Dose anyone have information for a possible connection?