Barr Family

[didivot]

Hi Ann

I would be interested in any information you have about Helen / Ellen Barr. I am also descended from a child of Hugh Barr and Mary Templeton. Rebecca Barr was born about 1783 and married a James Barr (no relation that I know of). I haven't a bith for Helen. Would you know when she was born and died?
Regards
Wendy

[Ann Baker]

Hi wendy

I don't have her baptism tho I do have rebeccas baptism. I can't work out why Helen's isn;t there.

I do however have her marriage and her death cert. Helen died on 21/9/1860 in Paisley (5 Queen St). Going by age at death she was born about 1787 so younger than Rebecca. There are some odd gaps between the 3 children Hugh and Mary had that are listed on Scotland;s People. I think there were more children. Some perhaps may have died very young hence no baptisms. And of course cos pre 1855 no death records in Paisley.

I also have Hugh Barr & Mary Templeton's marriage banns in 1782 which was in Ochiltree Ayrshire tho Hugh was from Paisley. I'm just about to start unravelling this having spent what seems forever on the Robertsons and hit a bit of a brick wall.

But Helen is my direct line so next task is to try and find out more about her..

If you PM me your email. Happy to share what info I have.

Ann

[didivot]

Hi Ann

Thank you so much for replying- I never thought I would find any Barr relatives out there as the other side of the family seemed to have died off in Paisley and I wasn't aware of the existence of Helen. Iagree that there should be more children, at least a son John to go with the naming pattern.

Rebecca married James Barr in June 1803. They had 6 children, including my ggg grandfather James who emigrated to Australia in 1849. He had a brother John who emigrated to New Zealand and became somwhat famous there as a poet who wrote in the style of Robert Burns. My father has a book of his poems. The other children, sons William and Hugh, and daughters Mary and Sarah Rebecca remained in Scotland. Mary married the Rev. John Symington but had no children. sarah married James Jamieson Lamb.
Rebecca died 11 June 1839 in Paisley.

I would appreciate any info that you are willing  to send.

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Regards
Wendy

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[Rae33]

To Ann Baker

Hello Ann
I was pleased to read your info re Helen Barr's death date as I am working on the same family in 1851 census living at 33 Castle St Paisley, hoping they are my husband's ancestors.  His gggrandparents were William Robertson (weaver) and Elizabeth Grozet who married 30 Jan 1829 in Paisley. Their son Alexander was born c1840 in Paisley and married in 1870.  His father William was still living and Elizabeth was deceased.  I am hoping William (45) and Alexr (12) shown on the 1851 census are our family.
William (son of William and Helen Barr) 45 married Elisabeth Wylie in 1849 and think this could be his second marriage.
Haven't been able to verify the link as I can't find William's death certificate - would have been between 1871 census and 31 Dec 1875 when their daughter Agnes married.
I would greatly appreciate any info you are willing to give me.
Regards....Rae

[Ann Baker]

Hi Rae

It's definitely the same family. My William did marry an Elizabeth Wylie (who had previously been married to a James Watt). William is my gtx3 grandfather.

On the 1851 he is with his father and brothers at his parents house. Elizabeth is with her parents with her daughter Janet Watt.

Happy to share what info I have. Please PM me your email address as I can't post images on boards cos of copyright.

Best Wishes

Ann

[Ann Baker]

Rae

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Ann

[Rae33]

Hi Ann
Thanks for your reply.  I'm new to this. I couldn't find William R and Elizabeth Grozet on the 1841 census or William and Helen and family so will be interested to hear from you later.

Regards Rae

[Tanya G]

Hi All,

I have Barr relatations. That I would like assistance in. I have Janet Hunter born 1830 Barony Scotland married to William Barr 1855.
They had seven children Jane, Margaret, James, William, Robert, Elizabeth, and John Barr. is someone able to help. I know William was born about 1827. But this is about it. Janet Hunter is my 3rd Great Grand Aunt and I would like to find any information on this side if any one is able to hlep.

Thanks for your assistance.

[Rae33]

Hi Tanya G

Read your posting re William Barr and Janet Hunter but sorry I don't have any info that would help.  Our ancestor is Helen Barr who married William Robertson in 1803 and my main info comes from that posted by Ann Baker and Didivot (Wendy).  Will let you know if I come across your William Barr in my research.

Best of luck
Rae