ludford / barnes bury lancashire

[aliJB]

   new branch to my tree Mary Barnes married James ludford in 1863 they had two children together Simeon ludford 1864 and Mary j ludford 1869 bury. Mary had two children before marriage as i can work out Frances Barnes born 1859 atherstone warwickshire who married George Daniel's bury,
George Barnes 1856 born atherstone warwickshire who married Elizabeth ?not sure were they married looking in to it ,looks like George and Elizabeth moved to bury to be close to his mother, they are on 1891 census as having three children George Barnes 1890 born Radcliffe lancashire
  2         Mary Ann Barnes 1882 born Dudley
  3         Sarah Ann Barnes 1887 born Dudley
 
  any help on this family would love to hear from you  alijb

[DS]

Hello

They apparently also had another son called Thomas.....

1871

Bury RG10/3958 Folio 59 Page 44

James Ludford Head M 30 Hatter Warwickshire Atherstone
Mary do Wife M 30 Warwickshire Atherstone
Frances M do Daur 13 Cotton Weaver Warwickshire Atherstone
Simon do Son 8 Scholar Warwickshire Atherstone
Thomas do Son 5 Scholar Lancashire Bury
Mary J do Daur 3 Lancashire Bury

42 Ray Street, Bury

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AliJB

Did you already know about any of this ?

Death Registration

1886 Bury AMJ quarter 8c 318

James Ludford Aged 47

Marriage Registration

1887 Bury OND quarter 8c 733

Mary Ludford (nee Barnes)
John South

Death Registration

1890 Bury JFM quarter 8c 424

John South  Aged 48

So in 1891 Mary was listed on the census as Mary South, Widow

....also....

Death Registration

1889 Bury JAS quarter 8c 308

Frances Mary H Daniels Aged 29

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1891

Bury RG12/3140 Folio 156 Page 39

Mary South Head Widow 53 Felt Trimmer Warwickshire Atherstone
Harry do Son S 20 Cotton Operative Oxfordshire Banbury
Elizabeth do Daur S 15 Cotton Operative Oxfordshire Banbury
George Daniels Son in Law Widr 30 Paper Finisher Lancashire Manchester
Charlotte do Grand Daur 9 Scholar Lancashire Bury
Arthur do Grand Son 6 Scholar Lancashire Bury
James do Grand Son 4 Scholar Lancashire Bury

33 New Cedar Street, Bury

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1901

Bury RG13/3640 Folio 73 Page 47

Mary South Head Widow 64 Warwickshire Atherstone
John H do Son S 31 Stoker’s Labourer Banbury
Elizabeth A do Daur S 26 Cotton Weaver Banbury
Charlotte Daniels Grand Daur S 20 Cotton Weaver Lancashire Bury
Arthur do Grand Son 17 Cotton Spinner Tenter Lancashire Bury
James do Grand Son 15 Cotton Spinner Tenter Lancashire Bury

63 Pine Street, Bury

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[DS]

Regarding George ...

It looks like he moved back to Warwickshire....

1901

Atherstone RG13/2898 Folio 145 Page 5

George Barnes Head M Felt Hat Blocker ? Warwick Atherstone
Elizabeth do Wife M 45 Dudley Staffordshire
William do Son 7 Lancashire Bury
George do Son 7mo Leicestershire Ratcliffe Culey

Phoenix Yard, Atherstone

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Regarding the three children shown in 1891....

Possible Death Registrations

1891 Bury OND quarter 8c 341

George Barnes Aged 1

1891 Bury OND quarter 8c 372

Sarah Ann Barnes Aged 5
Her birth year was shown as 1886 (not 1882) on the 1891 census

Possible Marriage Registration

1899 Atherstone OND quarter 6d 895

Mary Ann Barnes
Daniel Wilkes

1901

Dudley RG13/2745 Folio 106 Page 19

Daniel Wilkes Head M 28 Carter for Corporation Worc. Dudley
Mary A do Wife M 21 Worc. Dudley

Court 4 House 19 (Oxford Street), Dudley

Need to check certificates or registers to be sure, but these look like they could be them.

DS

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AliJB

Between this and your other (connected) thread....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,268875.msg1532653.html#msg1532653

....some of us found it very difficult to work out precisely what you wanted to know and what you already knew.

I hope that we have now managed to find something that is of interest and use to you. If you need any other census information can you please specify exactly which years you want (and, of course, which particular people you want them for ).

Best wishes

DS

[aliJB]

thanks so much for your help x
 thats why i was struggling as mary married again (fast movers)
you've been very help full thank you again
    alison x