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Alfred Braby
« on: Saturday 17 November 07 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Am looking for any information on an Alfred Braby born in 1873 in Lambeth - his father Alfred was a Slater and his mother was a Mary Jayne Bayley.

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Trixie - Cape Town

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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 November 07 06:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trixie & welcome to Rootschat.
I have information on the Braby family from Lambeth in my research.  Unfortunately I don't seem to have the name Alfred on my notes but I'm sure there must be a connection.  The members of my Braby family were associated with iron works in Lambeth.  I'll have a dig around & see if I can come up with anything.  If you've got extra information about this family let me know as it all helps  :)

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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 November 07 07:05 GMT (UK) »
Well I have found the family in the 1871 census but only some of them are at home in the 1881 census, no parents and no Alfred

1871
No. 89 Ennore House, Lower Hulse HIll, Left Side, Brixton, Lambeth St Mary, Surrey
Alfred Braby Head M 39 Slate Merchant - Slater and Slate Manufacturer employing 36 men and 5 boys Surrey Lambeth
Mary Jane Wife M 33 Lancashire Accrington
Ernest Son 10 Surrey Lambeth
Clement Son 8 " "
Wallace Son 6 " "
Percy Son 4 " "
Lilian Daug 2 " "
and servants
RG10; Piece: 685; Folio: 18; Page: 26
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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 November 07 07:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jane

Thanks very much for your reply - I am writing an article on Alfred Braby who was the first man in South Africa to start the Telephone directories......I have more info on the family.......and would be more than willling to exchange info

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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 November 07 07:10 GMT (UK) »
 Mary, Alfred junior wouldn't be on the 1871 census as he was born 1873  ;)  I think I've found the connection in my notes but I'm just polishing it up  :)

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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 November 07 07:10 GMT (UK) »
and in 1881
15 Holland Villas Road, Kensington Town, Kensington, London
Ernst Braby Son S 20 Clerk to Slate Merchant Surrey Lambeth
Clement Son S 18                   "                " "
Lilian daur 12 Scholar Surrey Brixton
Ethel " 9 " " "
Cyril son 7 " " "
Alice daur 5 " " "
Sarah Roberts serv Mar 36 House maid domestic Cambs Wimblington
Clara E Lonsdale " unm 18 Nurse Lancs Accrington
Harrt Cottrell serv unm 33 Cook Surrey Beckham
Elizabeth M Lovedale Visitor W 59 Lancs Salford
Robert S Chappell Visitor Unm 22 Clerk to Stockbroker Essex Witham
RG11; Piece: 28; Folio: 71; Page: 14

Interesting that the Nurse Clara is from Mary Jane's home town of Accrington.

Sorry Jane, I meant in 1881 he and parents weren't home, not 1871
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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 November 07 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Oh, how interesting Trixie.  I have a friend & contact on this particular line of the Braby family.  If you like I can contact her & put the two of you in touch? 
I found the marriage of Alfred & Mary Jane, Q3 1859, Pancras.  As I said to Mary, I'm polishing all this up & once done I can take you back many generations through Rudgwick & Warnham in Sussex!

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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 November 07 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jane

I have a subscription to Ancestry.com so I can have checked all the cenus's - I would love to get in touch with your friend as hopefully I will be getting in touch with a living relative here as well. Would that not be wonderful to reunite these two families if they are related.

I also found the Marriage of Alfred and Mary and then found her in the 1841 Census - age spot on and nobody else in the area for miles or years with the same name:

Descendants of Alfred Braby


Generation No. 1

1.  ALFRED1 BRABY was born Abt. 1823 in Lambeth, Surrey.  He married MARY JANE BAYLEY September Quarter 1859 in Pancras. London, daughter of JONATHAN BAYLEY and LYDIA CHAN.  She was born Abt. 1838 in Accrington, Lancashire.

Notes for ALFRED BRABY:
Listed as  Slate Merchant in the 1861 Census living at Bangor ? Wharf, London.
Baby Ernest 7 months old

1871 Census Alfred is listed as a Slate Merchant and Slater as well as a Slate Manufacturer employing 56 Men and 5 boys living at 89 Connor House in the District  of Lambeth
   
Children of ALFRED BRABY and MARY BAYLEY are:
   i.   ERNEST2 BRABY, b. 1861, Lambeth, Surrey.
2.   ii.   CLEMENT BRABY, b. Abt. 1863, Lambeth, Surrey.
   iii.   WALLACE BRABY, b. 1865, Lambeth, Surrey.
   iv.   PERCY BRABY, b. 1867, Lambeth, Surrey.
   v.   LILIAN BRABY, b. Abt. 1869, Lambeth, Surrey.
   vi.   ETHEL BRABY, b. 1872, Brixton, London.
3.   vii.   ALFRED CYRIL BRABY, b. 07 Jul 1873, London; d. 1958.
   viii.   ALICE BRABY, b. 1876, Lambeth, Surrey.


Generation No. 2

2.  CLEMENT2 BRABY (ALFRED1) was born Abt. 1863 in Lambeth, Surrey.  He married ADA BESSIE CHAPPELL. 
   
Children of CLEMENT BRABY and ADA CHAPPELL are:
   i.   STANLEY3 BRABY, b. 1889; d. Feb 1954.
   ii.   BEATRICE BRABY, b. 1888.
   iii.   ELSIE BRABY, b. 1891.


3.  ALFRED CYRIL2 BRABY (ALFRED1) was born 07 Jul 1873 in London, and died 1958.  He married MAUD CLARISSA COCKERELL 1901 in Durban, daughter of ALFRED COCKERELL and EMMA RIDGEWAY.  She was born 18 Aug 1875 in Durban, and died 25 Jul 1953 in Rockhaven, Cowies Hill, Natal.
   
Children of ALFRED BRABY and MAUD COCKERELL are:
   i.   HORACE CYRIL3 BRABY, b. 1904, 1980.
   ii.   CHILD BRABY.
   iii.   CHILD BRABY.




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Trixie


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Re: Alfred Braby
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 November 07 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trixie,
I'll get in touch with my friend, Val & fill her in on all this & suggest you get in contact with each other.
Meanwhile, I'll write up about what I've got on this family.  Just for starters, Alfred senior was the son of John Braby & Maria Churchman, they married 1829, Rudgwick, Sussex.

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