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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 22:01 BST (UK) »
Tangiwai,
How nice to hear from you - I have not had much luck in trying to get any further knowledge.
My husband's mother was Constance Maurice who was born in Omaio on the East Coast about 1926.
Her mother was Harihari Rauwharangi born I believe, in Tauranga. Later in life she married a George Gage. He did have a Maori name.
The parents of Harihari were - father was Rauwharangi and her mother was te Whakaata Te Wherowhero of Tauranga - I am certain they were of the Wairoa Marae in Bethlehem Tauranga.
I contacted a Colin Bidois of Tauranga a while ago but he did not get back to me and I am just stonewalled. Monty Ohia died a few days ago and anyone I have phoned has not come back to me and yet I am told that there is history back to the canoes - I only want another generation or two.
I have 6 grandchildren and I want to be able to give them their Maori side - I am not Maori myself.
I do look forward to hearing from you again and many thanks for your reply,
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 23:50 BST (UK) »
I was researching someone from omaio, and the baptism was in some church records, alot of the Maori were catholic.

Will need to hunt where I found that site, but do know that alot of the early catholic baptisms are available via NZSG library or from catholic archives lookup service.

I have the book "Whakatohoea of opotiki" by A C Lyall and there is one mention of RAUWHARANGI but only to a female involved in a battle, no genealogy given

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Althea

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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 07:45 BST (UK) »
Althea,
Great to hear from you - the Omaio birth I have all the details on as she was my ma-in-law so I did know her. Constance's father was Edward Maurice, he was from Devon and I have his history - he was a farmer at Te Kaha and died there about 1926, about the time Constance was born.
It is her mother's parents I would like to find and that is interesting that you have found a Rauwharangi, can you tell me exactly is said about her.
It is interesting that it is in a book about Opotiki as Connie's son was born there. I do remember him saying that his Maori grandfather had been a tohunga.
look forward to hearing more as any information will help to pad out these people.
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 09:28 BST (UK) »
HI
as part of description of whakapapa this book outlines hostories of the different hapu

This reference is following battles 1824
"Prior to the MAhia Peninsula affair, a man called Mahia of Whanau-a-Kai was killed at Te Papuni while Tuterangiwaitiri of the same tribe was killed at Te Houpapa. Responsible for these were Makawe, Kamau and Matahou of Ngati-Ngahere. A female prisoner names Rauwharangi was presented to Ngati-Rua from this affray, ..." page 118

http://www.maorilandonline.govt.nz/mlol/searchmlis.jsp this is an excellent site for landowners and finding posssible connections to different hapu

If you have any other names, I'll check the index
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Althea


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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 12:24 BST (UK) »
kia ora king william
yes there is a history going back to the waka or canoes and you may find some great stories on the MATAATUA WAKA. In knowing our WAKA we can connect to our TUPUNA or ancestors and the areas in which they moved. i guess like a spiritual journey. If you get no assistance from Ngati Pukenga Trust Board, thou you may want to wait a few days if our dear KAUMATUA or elder, Monty O'Hia has just passed away. thankyou for letting me no, i feel a trip to Tauranga. I shared a number of moments with Monty and his close friend the late Jack Aramete Steedman. You could try the library for a book called PUKENGA or HE TOTO, both written by Jack, a great grandson of the paramount chief in Tauranga.

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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 19 June 08 04:13 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to you both, this should be of great help and the name of Rauwharangi in 1824 is quite early, she may have been a great or even great great grandmother of my line.
Thanks
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: Maori History - Help COMPLETED
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 02:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Tangiwhai,
Im looking for informatin on Susan Te Whaakawa.I have been reading your posts with much intrest!Im a direct decendant of Susan thru my fathers grandmother,who was Hannah Cartman from opitiki,like evry one else im just trying to join the dots!
Thanks Mancini