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Maori History - Help COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 15 November 07 00:40 GMT (UK) »
I have sent for a marriage print-out for Harihari Rauwharangi who was my children's great grandmother. As far as I can see she was not married to the father of her several children - he was Edward Mortimer Gillen Maurice of Plymouth, Devon, his wife Helena died in Tauranga in 1921 and he died in 1926 in Te Kaha. There is no sign of any marriage between Edward and Harihari which is no problem except for trying to trace their history.
My ex mother-in-law Constance Maurice was born about 1926, the youngest child of Edward and Harihari. I did find she had married a Mr Gage in 1936 so I sent for a printout - I am kicking myself I did not send for the certificate as it is very hard to read.
This is where I am asking for help and I will give you what I can read.
She was 48 so was born about 1888 in Tauranga, she lists herself as "pouaru" which I guess is "widowed"
Her father's name is listed as "Rauwharangi" - only one name which gives me nothing and her mother's name is "te whakaata tewhero"
Can anyone help with any further history of this lady - by chance I live in Tauranga but need to know if anything further is able to be accessed so that I can give my children her history - or is that it!
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: MAORI HISTORY - HELP
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 November 07 01:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi King, i don't live in NZ but visiting my Dau. there found help at the Welllington Archives.  Seem to remember seeing a Dept. dedicated to Maori History.
A Link which may help ,or who you could contact is

http://www.maori.org.nz/

Is there not a Maori settlement (sorry can't remember the Maori names for a viilage/ and a lore keeper) in Tauranga with a someone who knows the genealogy?
My daughter has a friend who's Maorie husband knows his English ancestor from the 1890's.
Spring
Dorset: Ackerman,Bungey,Bunter Chant,Hyle
Islington:Bedford, Eaton,Wilkins
Beds,Fulham: Brazier
Shoreditch: Burton,Coverdale
Essex ,Clerkenwell:Craswell,Cresswell
St.Lukes Middx:Doughty, Dunkley
Andover/IOW/Fulham:Gasser
Fulham: Neal
Bucks:Putnam,Wingrove
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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 November 07 05:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - will try the site given
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 November 07 06:45 GMT (UK) »
Try searching and posting at
http://whakapapa.maori.org.nz/

Use info at
NZSG Special interest Maori
http://www.rcyachts.net/maori/how%20to.htm


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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 November 07 07:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - another to try - am just logging off now for the night - will try them tomorrow,
Many thanks
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 November 07 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Robin

A few thoughts:

If you had ordered a Certificate, it would have been another persons guess (right or wrong) at what you are having difficulty reading.
If you can scan or photograph the printout, why don’t you post the parts you can’t read.
The ITM for Harihari and Mr Gage may tell you more…

 
Bren

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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 November 07 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Agree, try posting parts you can't read.

Maori.org is a good site

"Rauwharangi" might well be all there is, this name will still guide to find others, but remember to respect the differences in Maori whakapapa to English genealogy.

and same with the mothers ( Te Whakaata Tewhero ) this is  guaranteed to get a hit in the appropriate place, but again, don't get to upset if NO ONE wants to relate their whakapapa to you.

The Maori have a totally different ways of preserving their whakapapa. 
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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 November 07 07:09 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for all replies, am going to look at all sites and follow all suggestions - I don't have a scanner but will follow all else including respecting their whakapapa. As you say Rauwharangi may be all the name he ever had.
Kiwibren - what does ITM mean - and thanks for your reply
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: Maori History - Help
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 November 07 07:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Robin

ITM = Intention to Marry ( a bit like a licence).
They are held at Archives in Wellington.
If one of the parties was under 21 it states who gave permission for that person to marry (often a parent).
It also states how long each party has lived in the district where the marriage is to take place. (can be useful at times)

Bren.