Lauchlan Carmichael

[Brian Holcroft]

Alison,
Alexander Porteous Carmichael (b.1832) and Janet Henderson were my wife's 2X Great Grandparents.
David Henderson Carmichael (b. 1856) and Janet Carmichael were her Great Grandparents.
James Henderson Brown Carmichael was her Grandfather.
Andrew Halliday Carmichael (b. 1909) was her father.

I presume the Andrew Halliday Carmichael, your ancestor, was the son of Alexnder Porteous Carmichael and Margaret Shaw who is shown in 1901 census as a Butcher in Edinburgh.

Re James Carmichael ( Alexander Porteous Carmichael's father) I have his marriage and burial details. I have concluded ( I hope correctly ) that he married twice to Jean home and to Margaret Shaw.

Andrew Halliday Carmichael the son of James Carmichael and Margaret Shaw qualified as a Doctor and died in Ormskirk, Lancashire (1901) aged 77 years.

Re the family rumour of a relationship with the Earl of Hyndford I have no knowledge.

I should be grateful for any information you have on the Carmichael family and trust that you will keep me up to date with any progress.

Thanks,
Brian

[fhresearcher]

Please add info on Andrew Halliday notes. Thanks!

Debbie

[as29]

Hi Brian

Thank you for your information.  I would be interested in the details of James Carmichael, birth place, death place and his parents etc  I have found it very difficult to find.

The information currently I have is:
 
Alexander Porteous m Janet Henderson, their son
Andrew Halliday Carmichael married Mary Grant Richie, their Son (my great grandparents)
Andrew Halliday Carmichael (b 1897 d 1976) (My grandfather)

I conclude that David Henderson was Andrew's brother?  There seems to be quite a few Andrew Hallidays.

Sir Andrew Halliday was always spoken of highly in the family, he bequeathed a sum of money to train my grandfather as a Dr, but unfortunately he couldn't complete his studies due to WW1 - I'm not sure how come this was as Sir Andrew was dead long before he was born.  A family member has Sir Andrew's certificates/manuscripts and correspondence he did during his career including some from the king.  I am hoping to get more information on the family history I will let you know.

I hope this may be useful information for you.  Alison

[fhresearcher]

Dear Alison,

My 4th great grandmother, Elizabeth, was the sister of Sir Andrew Halliday and I am very interested in his life and career. I have been researching him as well as his godson and grand nephew:

Andrew Hallidie Smith later changed his last name to Hallidie (b. 1836 and inventor of the cable car in SF, California)
Some writings mention that Sir Andrew Halliday also gave a sum of money to his godson.

Would you please let your family member know I would be most interested in sharing info.

Debbie

[as29]

Dear Debbie

I will see what I can do for you.  I had a look at the certificates yesterday, most of which are in Latin.  One mentions midwifery.  I could see if I could take a photocopy and send you what I have, this I must have agreement from my family member - it may not be possible as of how old they are and whether they could withstand photocopying.  I am next week going through a trunk of my grandfather stuff in hope that any correspondence might shed light on the connection.  I will let you know if I find out any more information.

I'm wondering if anybody has photograph's of family members as I would be interested. 

Thanks.  Alison

[Brian Holcroft]

Alison,
I am very interested in your statement that Sir Andrew Halliday bequeathed a sum of money to train your grandad Andrew Halliday Carmichael as a doctor despite yor father not having been born at the time of this bequest.
Another Andrew Halliday Carmichael (Son of James Carmichael and brother of Alexander Porteous Carmichael and probably a nephew of Sir Andrew halliday b.1824-d.1901) qualified as a Doctor in midwifery, Could this Andrew halliday carmichael be the subject of this bequest.

With regard to James Carmichael of the Tax office I have a lot of information/evidence that I am struggling to resolve.

Please keep me in the loop.

Brian 

[kay_linds]

Hi Everyone,

We've been checking Sir Andrew and Lady Helen's wills, we can't see that there are any bequests to Andrew Halliday Carmichael, everything is left to Lady Helen, Sir Andrew's sisters and sisters-in law and any of their lawful children if they hadn't survived.

We assume it is our Lachlan Carmichael who is executor on Lady Helen's will as he is listed as a chemist working at 13 Calton St, on the 1861 census we have him at 9 Calton St.  It would appear that he was appointed by the courts as the executor as he's listed as Executor dative qua nearest in kin.  This evidence together with the names Halliday and Porteous would strongly suggest that there is a link between the families of Sir Andrew Halliday and James Carmichael and Margaret Shaw however we have still not been able to crack this one.

Linds & Kay

[fhresearcher]

I have the same results. In the messages it has been brought up that Lauchlan, and family, then move to Australia. I am very interested in your thoughts/research findings on Sir Andrew and Lady Helen.

Thanks,
Debbie

[Brian Holcroft]

Dear all,
I have set out all the info I have on Lady Helen and James Carmichael et al and I too have failed to resolve the relationships, if you wish to see a copy in a joint effort to resolve this matter let me know.
Brian.