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Offline Walt

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« on: Monday 12 November 07 14:31 GMT (UK) »
My Father's family immigrated to Canada on the SS Letitia leaving Glasgow on 31 May 1929 arriving at Quebec on the 9 Jun 1929.On the doc's it gives the final destination as Land Settlement 440 & nothing else.I believe this was in the New Brunswick area. I would love to know exactly where in Canada it was he lived. Can anyone help me?

The family were

John Stirling  45
Jessie            47
Margaret       21
William J        17
Donald          14
Walter           13
David (my dad)11

They returned to Scotland in 1935 due to his mothers ill health. Any help would be appreciated regards,    Walter.
Stirling :- Paisley,Stirlingshire,Aberdeen,Ross-Shire.
Mutch :-Banffshire,Abderdeenshire. 
Fletcher :-Inverness,Ross-Shire.    Fraser :-Inverness.
MacDonald,McDonald :-Inverness,Ross-Shire,      Michie :-Stirling.     Brown :- Stirling.             Sutherland :- Inverness

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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 November 07 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Did all of the Stirling family return to Canada? If someone stayed it would make it easier to find them...

It seems more likely they would be heading west, to homesteads in Alberta or Saskatchewan perhaps. I can find that  Rural Municipality of Hillsdale, in Saskatchewan, is RM 440.

(also, is the documentation you have the list leaving the UK, or the list into Canada, or both?)
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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 13:38 GMT (UK) »
The Doc I have is the Immigration Record.
I've enclosed a copy of the destination details that relate to them.
As you can see there is some writing on it but I can't make out the top word or the last one.
They all returned to Scotland in 1935-6,   Walter.
Stirling :- Paisley,Stirlingshire,Aberdeen,Ross-Shire.
Mutch :-Banffshire,Abderdeenshire. 
Fletcher :-Inverness,Ross-Shire.    Fraser :-Inverness.
MacDonald,McDonald :-Inverness,Ross-Shire,      Michie :-Stirling.     Brown :- Stirling.             Sutherland :- Inverness

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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:49 GMT (UK) »
The typing seems to say "Land Settlement Branch" and then beneath "N.S." (might not be Nova Scotia, might mean "not stated" or something).  Written by hand near the top is, I think, "Quebec", then beneath "final destination (to be?) known ???

Was John a WWI veteran? There were soldier's settlement schemes and apparently some did end up in NB although most went west.

http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/RS686/?L=EN - no Stirlings here but some references to soldier's settlements in 1929/1930 with names not given.

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/022/022-912.003-e.html - if it was the Soldier Settlement Board, there's an address here you can write to to ask about it (I found a Canadian archives reference to the Land Settlement Branch being 'formerly Soldier Settlement Board').

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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Normally for N.B. and N.S. records there are vital statistics (many available online) which can pinpoint a location but it'll be more difficult here as the whole family came and went together without dying, being born or marrying in Canada.
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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 November 07 11:53 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure if he served in WWI (something else I need to look into).Is the printing above the writing N.S. or N.B.?On the column BY WHOM WAS PASSAGE PAID it's got the letters E.S.A. does anyone know what this means?  Walter
Stirling :- Paisley,Stirlingshire,Aberdeen,Ross-Shire.
Mutch :-Banffshire,Abderdeenshire. 
Fletcher :-Inverness,Ross-Shire.    Fraser :-Inverness.
MacDonald,McDonald :-Inverness,Ross-Shire,      Michie :-Stirling.     Brown :- Stirling.             Sutherland :- Inverness

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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 November 07 13:29 GMT (UK) »
I intially read it as N.S. but now comparing the S of Settlement and the B of Branch I think you're right, it is N.B.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.001-e.html - E.S.A. is probably "Empire Settlement Act".  Searching on www.nationalarchives.gov.uk I found in     T 161/1090 a reference to a Empire Settlement Act scheme in NB.

http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Soldier_Resettlement_Policy_in_the_Dominions%2C_1914-1930

http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/maclabour/article.php?id=831 - also a mention here of a New Brunswick Family Settlement Scheme, which apparently sent 90 families in early 1930, but yours might have come over on a related scheme.

There's also several mentions of a "British Family Settlement Scheme", and of a Farm Settlement Board in NB. Perhaps someone over at the NB archives might have some idea of where these farms were in NB, or if any records were kept of who went where.
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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 November 07 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Provincial Archives of New Brunswick has lots of information here:
http://archives.gnb.ca/Archives/Default.aspx?L=EN
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Re: New Brunswick
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 November 07 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for you're help. I've emailed archives to see if they can help thank's again,   Walter.
Stirling :- Paisley,Stirlingshire,Aberdeen,Ross-Shire.
Mutch :-Banffshire,Abderdeenshire. 
Fletcher :-Inverness,Ross-Shire.    Fraser :-Inverness.
MacDonald,McDonald :-Inverness,Ross-Shire,      Michie :-Stirling.     Brown :- Stirling.             Sutherland :- Inverness