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[Robert Zimmerman]

Hello All.

I have some information on one of my ancestors and l am trying to confirm it.

I have a William Henry Tyrer (Tyler) susposedly arriving in Australia, possibly SA on the 11-11-1833 aboard the 'ELISA'.

Could someone confirm this please and if so the departure date from  England as well.

Also if there are any other Tyrers on board this would be great as well.

many thanks

Zimmerman

[jeanlit]

The Convictions website gives some details of the arrival of the Eliza in Hobart Town on 3 November 1833 and Sydney on 24 November after leaving Dublin on 9 July 1833.  Unfortunately there were 87 (unnamed) in steerage.

http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/

see also the Help page for source of information.

Jean

[sparrett]

Hi,
not sure if you also want evidence of his settling in NSW

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

will show his marriage [bride also Eliza!], some births  and his early death there.
Sue

[Robert Zimmerman]

Jeanlitt/ Sparett

This is really weird.

The info you've given contradicts somewhat what l've got.

The convictions site ? the people in steerage would they be convicts ?

and Sparrett l have him having children in Vict with another woman.

I'll roughly give you what l've got. A bit of this is from family stories and fact

GGGMother Martha Jane Tyrer her parents where Williiam Henry Tyrer and a Mary Connelly. This is fact.

Family stories have it as her parents helped the Hentys bring cattle to Victoria and were the early pioneers in Port Fairy and Portland.

I have found the marriage of William and Mary in 1826 in Liverpool on the IGI.

Found the death index for Wm Tyrer in 1859 and has his birth place as Liverpool.

Going by what you've given me the Eliza going to TAS sounds right cause l know the Hentys also had land in Tassie and maybe he linked up with them there.

With him marrying in NSW l don't know but what l fouind on that site was weird l have a William and Sarah Tyrer born to a Wm Tyrer and Mary Connolly in 1842 and 44 in Port Fairy respectively oiff the Victorian Birth Indexes ...and looking at NSW they have Wm and Sarah born to a Wm and Mary in 1842 & 44 which is really weird.

Advice would be helpful.

Zimmerman

[jeanlit]

Robert

Although the site I named is called the convictions site, I don't think that this "Eliza" was a convict ship.  Convicts aboard transport ships are usually fairly well documented.    While the steerage people are not named, they were probably not considered to be "of importance" (without being rude).

Now that we know that the7 were at Port Fairy we may be able to find out more.  I will have a look after I finish this.

I forgot to mention in my last post that I'm fairly sure that the ship would have come from Ireland via the Cape of Good Hope as I don't think the Suez Canal was built in 1833.  This is the reason that it would have called at Hobart Town first and then Sydney.  The later ships called at Adelaide and then either Hobart, Melbourne or Sydney.

The other query about Victorian and New South Wales births appearing to be duplicated is simple - All BDM were recorded in New South Wales until I think 1852.  Then Victoria started as a separate state but the church registers were still in Victoria for the early entries so you can often get duplicates.

Have a look at this site:
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/port5b.htm

Jean

[jeanlit]

Robert

Also look at

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/port7b.htm

http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/sandford/names.htm

Jean

[jeanlit]

No, of course the Suez Canal wasn't built in 1833, nor was there much settlement at Adelaide then.

I should have said:
The ships would have gone south from England and then caught the "Roaring Forties" across to south of Tasmania and turned north to strike land at Hobart and then Sydney.   

Jean

[Robert Zimmerman]

Hi Jean

Thanks for the links.

Any other info that you think of would be greatly appreciated.

Zimmerman

[sparrett]

We still have not got an explanation for the NSW bmd entries which show one ...

William H. Tyrer marrying Eliza Griffith in  1835.
They have 2 children Emily b. 1838 and Henry 1840.

After this there are the 2 births you mention with father William H. Tyrer and Mary  as mother, 1842 and 1844.
Sue
EDIT
With some hesitation I offer this as a link.  Shows others searchers on a TYRER track.

  http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi

Not always reliable but useful as a guide perhaps.

Will either help the issue or totally cloud it!!
S.