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Offline LaurieA

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INDIAN - HARDY
« on: Wednesday 29 December 04 23:55 GMT (UK) »
John INDIAN was born to William INDIAN and Ann HARDY Indian on 07 February 1846 in Farnberry, Alston and Garrigall, Cumberland.  I have no information at this time on Ann HARDY, and all that I have on William INDIAN is that he was a miner.

John INDIAN married in 1870 in County Durham; his residence at that time was Bishop Auckland; his wife was Eliza Ann ELLIS; his occupation was miner and later agent.

If anyone connects to the INDIAN - HARDY line, I'd love to hear from you.

Regards,
Laurie
INDIAN: Counties Durham & Cumberland, England 1700-1900
SIMS, HUMPHREY / HUMPHREYS: Glamorgan, Wales
DICICCO: Sant'Elia Fiumerapido, Italy, 1700-1900

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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 March 09 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi LaurieA
I am new to RootsChat but I am interested the Indian family. The line I am following is Ann Indian born c1840 - parents William Indian c1813 Alston & Ann Hardy c1821 Kirkoswald - marr. 1837 Alston.
Ann Indian marr George Pattinson - 1865 Auckland Saint Andrew - Co. Durham and then William Forster 1874 Co. Durham.
According to the info that I have managed to find Ann c1840 must be sister to your John. I have collected all of the census' that are available but am interested in anything to do with this family especially earlier generations.

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Cromwell73

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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 March 09 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to rootschat.
Unfortunately Laurie has not be on rootschat for some years now.  He may respond to your post here but if not then your only hope is to send him a personal message (click on the scroll under his name) and hope that the email address has not changed in the meantime.   However, new members are not able to use our pm systmem until they have 3 posts.  Reply to this and you have one more.  You can use our search rootschat facility at the top of the board to see if anyone else has posted about the family or look at the Surname Interests Table.
I do hope you manage to make contact
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Andrea

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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 March 09 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrea
Thank you for your reply and advice. I will wait and see if there is a response from Laurie and then act.
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Cromwell73 


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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 March 09 21:12 GMT (UK) »
If you go on to freebmd and only put births indian and alston into the search panels, you will get all the info you supplied to us plus a thomas hardy indian which can only have come from this paring. You can request certificates for all the references and with a name like indian probably follow him down line through them but be careful cos there were 3 johns born and 1 death so you need to winnow which one belongs to which.

Andrea, do I get extra points for "winnow"?
bob
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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 March 09 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Andrea, do I get extra points for "winnow"?
bob
You certainly do - anything that separates the wheat from the chaff is worthy of a point!
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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 March 09 00:30 GMT (UK) »
My deepest apologies - I posted here and didn't come back, an oversight, but quite rude and for that I'm sorry for all who posted help.

Yes, your Ann does sound like the sister to William Indian, and I've made progress and would be happy to share. Are you looking for any specific records or connections?
INDIAN: Counties Durham & Cumberland, England 1700-1900
SIMS, HUMPHREY / HUMPHREYS: Glamorgan, Wales
DICICCO: Sant'Elia Fiumerapido, Italy, 1700-1900

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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 March 09 03:43 GMT (UK) »
The line I am following is Ann Indian born c1840 - parents William Indian c1813 Alston & Ann Hardy c1821 Kirkoswald - marr. 1837 Alston.
Ann Indian marr George Pattinson - 1865 Auckland Saint Andrew - Co. Durham and then William Forster 1874 Co. Durham.
According to the info that I have managed to find Ann c1840 must be sister to your John. I have collected all of the census' that are available but am interested in anything to do with this family especially earlier generations.

Cromwell, here is what I have using a variety of sources, sometimes only an index or census, as I don't yet have all the birth, marriage, and death records.

William INDIAN was baptized 09 Jul 1813 in Alston, Cumberland, England. He married Ann HARDY on 23 Nov 1837 in Alston; both fathers were named Thomas. William died 02 Dec 1871 in a mining accident in Auckland, Durham, England. I believe that it was Ann, his widow, who married William FOSTER/FORSTER (not sure which spelling it should be).  The reason I say this is that if you look at the 1881 census in Tanfield, Durham, England, for William FOSTER and his wife Ann, he has a step-son Jacob. Jacob was the son of William INDIAN and Ann HARDY, and the ages fit.

Children of William INDIAN and Ann HARDY include:
1. Susannah INDIAN b. c1839, m. Thomas PATTINSON, no known children to them.
2. Ann INDIAN b. c1840, m. George PATTINSON, children include Jane Ann b. c1869, Susannah b. c1872, Mary E. b. c1875, Hannah b. c1877, and George M. b. c1884.
3. Margaret INDIAN b. 1842, no further information.
4. John INDIAN b. 1846 Nenthead, m. 1872 Saint Andrew Auckland, emmigrated 1888, settled in Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania where he died in 1915. His children include William 1872-1872, Ann Elizabeth 1873-1873, Hannah 1875-1966, Edith Ann 1881-1885, George William 1884-1957, Thomas Ellis 1886-1926.
5. Esther INDIAN b. 1848, m. John GITTINS, children include William Reece b. c1874, Margaret Jane b. c1877, George b. c1879, Emily Ann b. c1881, Susannah b. c1883, Mary b. c1886, John b. c1889, and Thomas b. c1892.
6. William INDIAN b. 1849, m. Barbara BLACK, children include Elizabeth b. c1879, William b. c1881, Winnifred B. b. c1886, Lucy b. c1888, John b. c1890.
7. Thomas Hardy INDIAN b. 1852, m. Mary A. EVANS, emmigrated 1881, living first in Scranton and settling in Covington Township, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania where he died in the 1920s. His children include Thomas W. b. c1875, John b. 1877, Jacob b. 1880, Mary Ann b. 1882, and Emma b. 1899.
8. Mary INDIAN b. 1854, m. Lancelot SLOWTHER, emigrated 1882, settled in Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania, where she died in childbirth. Her children include George W. b. 1873, John b. 1876, Jane A. b. c1878, Susannah b. c1880.
9. Emily J. INDIAN 1859-1878
10. Jacob Hetherington INDIAN b. 1861, m. Dinah CHRISTOPHER, children included John C. b. c1890, Thomas S. b. c1891, Lily E. b. c1893, Winifred B. b. c1895, and Beatrice M. b. c1897.

I hope this helps. The children of William and Ann were all born in Alston, Cumberland, England, some of them settling in the United States, some remaining in Cumberland, others moving to County Durham.
INDIAN: Counties Durham & Cumberland, England 1700-1900
SIMS, HUMPHREY / HUMPHREYS: Glamorgan, Wales
DICICCO: Sant'Elia Fiumerapido, Italy, 1700-1900

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Re: INDIAN - HARDY
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 March 09 03:53 GMT (UK) »
If you go on to freebmd and only put births indian and alston into the search panels, you will get all the info you supplied to us plus a thomas hardy indian which can only have come from this paring. You can request certificates for all the references and with a name like indian probably follow him down line through them but be careful cos there were 3 johns born and 1 death so you need to winnow which one belongs to which.

Bob, this is the challenge with this family. It is a large family, and the same names are used, which makes it hard to sort out who's who. Thomas Hardy INDIAN--they chose the name to help us out down the road  :)
INDIAN: Counties Durham & Cumberland, England 1700-1900
SIMS, HUMPHREY / HUMPHREYS: Glamorgan, Wales
DICICCO: Sant'Elia Fiumerapido, Italy, 1700-1900