Goldsmiths of Hellingly/Stones of Hythe

[paradise2431]

Hi There
I was reading all the Goldsmith coments and I have come across your message.
I think I have the same family tree line. I am in NSW Australia My Great Grand Father Albert James Goldsmith B 20.6.1872 Middlesex he came over in 1888 on the ship Alexander Lawerence his brother was William Charles Goldsmith I don't know nothing about him at all but I wish I did or there could have been more children. Their father Henry Charles Goldsmith Born 1841 Hailsham and their Mother Mary Ann Friars Born 16.6.1844 Hailsham Married 23.7.1871 St Stephens The Martyr Co Middlesex
Henry's father was Thomas Goldsmith B 1809 circa. and mother Mary Ann ? B 1823 circa. D 15.5.1908 36 Bellbanks Rd Hailsham
Children that I know of are
Henry 1841, Caroline 1845, Thomas 1846, George 1847, Naomi 1849, and Joseph 1851.
Thomas Goldsmith Snr 1809 his father was
Joseph Goldsmith B 1781 Hailsham circa. and Ann Southerne 1786 Steyning they were married 1804 St Ann Lewes Children from this marriage that I know off  are
Reuben 1812, Noah 1814, Elizabeth 1817, Sarah 1818 Hailsham, Ann 1824, and Caroline 1831, Is there any of these name connected to you family
Looking Forward to your answer Thank You Robyn
 

[Tomscot]

Hi Robyn,
              Welcome to Rootchat,and what a surprise,yes we are related.
I am at this moment looking at my Family Tree.Joseph Goldsmith b 16/09/1781 Hailsham was my Grtx3 Grandfather,married Ann Souton/Southerne on the 22/03/1804 in Lewes Sussex. Ann was born in Steyning on the 21/08/1786.
 Joseph was 23 years, and Ann was 18 years.Ann Gloldsmith was my Grt/Grt/ Grand mother b 29/02/1824.Her siblings are as you say except I have no record of Noah.Thomas Goldsmith b 1809 was my Grt/Grt/Uncle,he married
Mary Ann Elphick on the 22/01/1843 Maresfield Sussex.Henry his son and I both served in the Queens Foot Guards I served in the Scot Guards and Henry in the Grenadiers though not at the same time ;DHe was a Sargeant Statoined at Wellington Barracks at the time of the 1881 census,our Goldsmith tree I have goes back to 1696 which I have traced.Well  I will sign off now, I will be in touch with you soon.
                                            Kind Regards,
                                                                  Tomscot.
 
                                         

 

[paradise2431]

Well Hi There cousin welcome to my half of the family in NSW this is so fantastic I have just finished talking to my maternal 3rd Cousins in Donegal that I didn't know before Christmas 2011  living 8 miles away from my GGrandmothers farm MOMEEN CRAIG I was over the moon I even have a photo of my GGGrandparents grave let alone marriages cert and death cert and my family book has gotten bigger after we have gone further than I would ever have thought of all I wanted to know is where in Donegal did GGrandma come from thanks to the internet I thought that I would try and find out about my side of the Goldsmith my maiden name I am now retired and I have time to do this.
I'm so excited to find about the Goldsmiths there is only two Aunties left that are in their 70-80's and they don't know much only what their grandfather Albert James has told them, Our Cousin went to England many times as an air Steward in his spare time he would trace the Goldsmith Family buying Cert. taking photos of the houses they lived in and visiting the local parishes, sadly he has died but he has left me everthing. I am not a hundred percent right in the names and dates that is why before I finish the tree and print all I have done and leave it for the kids and Grand Kids I would like to correct what he has been done to make sure its all correct if you could help me do this Wow I would be for ever grateful.
What you are saying Goldsmiths back to 1696 my god that would be something I would never believe one could do that we have a terrible lot of information to exchange then I have nearly all the records of the Henry's Enlistment papers and his discharge papers to give you as well. You just gave me the dates of Joseph and Ann's Birth I didn't have and name of Maryann Elphick all I had was a ? mark thank you at least that will fill in a hole. I have put in Noah because that's what Kevin told me he went to the parish registers I think I can only say what he has told me so if you know there was no Noah then there must be no Noah I don't have a William either so we will be e-mailing a lot til I get it right HAHA I have all the Goldsmith here in NSW right so I know this side is ok How do I send you the cert. and photos looking forward to more information You cousin Robyn Sending you a photo of Albert James Goldsmith my Great Grand father

[Tomscot]

Hi Robyn,
   I hope this of help to you, I found it in the 1881 Census, Ref William Goldsmith.
                William Goldsmith Head age 25 b Hailsham Sussex,b1856.
                 This was Henry's Brother.
                 Ann Goldsmith Wife, age 25 b Warbelton Sussex (nee Ann Avard),
                 Son Albert E Goldsmith son age 4 b 1877 Hailsham Suseex. 
                 Caroline Goldsmith Daughter age 2 b 1879 Hailsham Sussex.
                  Address Stoney Lane Hailsham Sussex.Is this the William you are
                  looking for?
                  Also do any of these name ring a bell with you, they are the rest of
                  the children of Thomas Goldsmith and Mary Ann Elphick.
                  Henry b 1844,Caroline b1845 Thomas 1846, George b 1848, John
                  b 1853 William as above b1856, Alfred b 1858, James b 1859.
                  As soon as I find more info I will let you know.
                                                               Kind Regards,
                                                                              Tom.
 
                                         
                       

[paradise2431]

Thanks Tom This is not the William I was after but this is great I want all the Goldsmith answered for and this will add anything will help to fill in the gapps I have

NO 1 SON    parents JOSEPH GOLDSMITH & ANN SOUTHERNE
THOMAS GOLDSMITH   B 1809   Hailsham England D 7.5.1889 Hailsham Married 22.1.1843 Maresfield Sussex Eng. (6275A) MARY ANN ELPHICK B 1823 Surrey England D 15.5.1908 36 Bellbanks Rd Hailsham Occupation General Labourer
CHILDREN
HENRY CHARLES  B 1841 Hailsham ENG D 25.12.1912 BURR: Hailsham Cemetery Plot 1098 36 Bellbanks Rd HailshamPrivate Soldier Gren. Guards 1st Regt. M 23.7.1871 MARY ANN FRIARS Parents HENRY  & ELIZABETH (CLEAR) B 16.6.1844 3 Marlboro Terrace Middlesex D 13.5.1908 36 Bellbanks Rd Hailsham Burr: Hailsham Cemetery Plot 1065 lived 5 Becketts Place Frederick St. St John’s Wood
CAROLINE GOLDSMITH MARRIED BY 1871
B 10.3.1845 Hailsham
D
THOMAS GOLDSMITH
B 1.3.1846 Hailsham
D
GEORGE GOLDSMITH
B 5.9.1848 Hailsham
D
NAOMI GOLDSMITH
B 11.3.1849 Hailsham
D
JOSEPH GOLSMITH
B 11.3.1851 Hailsham
D
WILLIAM GOLDSMITH
B 1855 Hailsham
D


ALFRED GOLDSMITH
B 1858 Hailsham
D


JAMES GOLDSMITH
B 1860 Hailsham
D


JOHN GOLDSMITH
B 1853 Hailsham
D

[paradise2431]

I haven't finished adding to this list and the page disapeared on me I would love to send this by e-mail this way is not helping I get so frustrsted I can't add what I want to say the page keeps rolling up when I'm typing.
I was talking about William Goldsmith B 1856 that you so kindly sent me is not the William I was looking for William Charles son of Henry Charles Goldsmith B 1841-44 we can not find Henry's  birth. I want to find all the children for Henry and Mary ann Friars I have Albert James B 20.6.1872 Henry Thomas 23.6.1876 Emily 17.9.1882 and William Charles B 4.1.1880 All born Hailsham and Bap St Stephens The Martyr Hailsham Albert is my GRT Grand Father Grand Father Robert Henry B 24.12.1902 Glebe Syd. and then my father Robert George B 23.8.1923 Glebe Sydney.
I would like to fill in the blanks before I print out the tree for my 4 children and 18 grand childrenThank you Robyn   

[paradise2431]

Thom do you have the Marriage certificate of Mary Ann Elphick and Henry Charles Goldsmith my cousin wants to now where they were married she only goes on proof
Thank you Robyn

[Tomscot]

Hi Robyn,
              Thank you for the Photo.I found this in My records I hope it is of some help to you. Alfred Goldsmith b 1858 Hailsham Sussex.Married Kate Jenkins b c1859 in Horsham Sussex.The marriage took place in 1878 Location not known as yet.The children of the marriage are, Ernest Goldsmith b 1879,Hailsham Sussex. Rosalyn b 1881,Sutton Surrey.Alfred b 1885 Hailsham. Herbert b 1888 Hailsham. Edith b 1894 St Leonards Sussex. John b 1897 St Leonards Sussex.
 Is this the Alfred in your family? I'm Sorry I dont have those Marriage certs as they are not part of my family tree.I will keep in touch.
                                              Kind Regards,
                                                                    Tomscot.
                                       
             

[paradise2431]

Hi Thom Thanks for this I have this Alfred, cousin Annette has sent me all the dates I am just filling the things I can find on the freeBMD, I was only checking this the other day and I have found in the 1891 census Alfred Goldsmith Bapt: 13.12.1857 Hailsham Parish Church he age 21 she age 20 married 21.5.1879 Hailsham 2b 135. Kate Jenkins B 1859 Horsham Children Ernest B 1880 Roseinea B 1881 Caroline B 1883 Alfred B 1886 Herbert B 1888 all Hailsham and Kate 10 days old B 1891 Hastings so you have added two more Edith and John St Leonards. I would like all the families to be complete before I print a copy for my children and the 18 and a half Grand kids, any more you find will be a help. Annette is sending me the family tree finished by a man called Richard Goldsmith he lived in Hailsham I dont know weither he is still alive but he and my cousin Kevin Gully communicated all the time before Kevin died, he has all baptisims 1780-1900 for Hailsham and surounding area. I have all the births or bapts. dates for all of Henry and Mary Goldsmith if you would like them, I have all births and Bapts. for Joseph and Ann Children also all of Joseph siblings his parents Thomas and Priscilla Goldsmith married 4.6.1780 Hailsham Parish. I think that is as far back as one can go I woud like to know when your Ann Goldsmith married James Podger what is their date and any children if you would like to tell me them please
regards Robyn