Any suggestions appreciated! **COMPLETED**

[Mk2_Zephyr]

Fairly typical, esp if she was more than 5 years younger,  so while marriage certs are genuinely a great info cert, the ages are always a bit suss.

[DotBrennan]

Hi Fern

What is it with this couple??......??  It's a wonder you didn't hear me laughing from there.
I was wondering if he was younger than her and therefore she put her age down - then the 1857 birth would fit!

Oh well, guess it will have to be one step at a time and wait until the death printout arrives.

Bren.

[Fern123]

Hey Bren
The death printout arrived this afternoon for Emily Hannah Isabel ASTLEY need FLEMING
This family are starting to drive me round the meth drinking bend mate.
Has to be her but what do you make of this?
Under parents names it says Joseph FLEMING and mother Margaret (funny writing almost looks like Marfuret) FLEMING formally HALL
Now it says - Born in Belfast in NZ 20 years so obviously they are now saying she wasnt born in Belfast NZ but Belfast somewhere else presumably Ireland! ..
AND under the marriage details  confirms she was married to Richard ASTLEY but that she was age 17 at time of marriage (not  21 as Marriage certificate said - surprise surprise) will be interesting to see if there is an ITM for sure.
On the Marriage certificate though - it said her mother was Emily FLEMING nee LOVELL or LOVETT so where do you think this Margaret HALL comes from!
Children at time of her death on 30 May 1900 were 2 Males 15 & 5 and 3 Females 13,12 & 6
Ive only just got this so couldnt wait to write and tell you .. i will sit down and digest this and decide what to do next and look at.. 
Fern

[DotBrennan]

Blimey Fern

I'll print it out and read it in the car tomorrow.
I'm off for some zzzzzzzzzz,

Bren.

[DotBrennan]

Morning Fern

Just off soon, but who was the informant on the Death cert?

I find death certs very useful for ages and sex of off-spring, but can be quite wrong about the earlier details.

Will be back in about 12 hours, so hopefully the ITM will confirm some of the data.
It might turn out that my initial reading of "Belfast, Northern Ireland" will turn out to be correct!!

One step at a time...

Bren.

[Fern123]

Hi Bren
Yes hopefully the ITM will show something, the informant was the Undertaker. Found Emily's father Joseph FLEMING  who is listed on here as a Surveyor on the 1893 electoral roll living in Nelson Street Auckland so that was a bonus
Regards
Fern

[DotBrennan]

Hi Fern

ASTLEY ITMs

1883
Richard Disney Lancaster ASTLEY, Bachelor, Sawyer, 30, Auckland, 4yrs
Emily Hannah FLEMING, Spinster, , 21, Auckland, 2yrs

1910
James Henry CARRINGTON, Bachelor, Carpenter, 23, Upper Hutt, 3 months
Adelaide Emily ASTLEY, Spinster, , 23, Upper Hutt, 2 months

CARRINGTON ITM, 1883
James Henry CARRINGTON, Bachelor, 23, Kaiapoi, 18 months,
Margaret CAMPBELL, Spinster, Weaver, 19, Kaiapoi, 7yrs,
The marriage took place at the bride’s residence Meadow Road, Kaiapoi, Rev Robert McGregor.
William CAMPBELL, father, gave consent

I have lots of theories, but will let you read info first.

Bren.

[Fern123]

thanks so much Bren I really appreciate that
interested in your theories!!..
Notice Margaret Campbell older on ITM than on marriage cert lol..
What you reckon?
 

[Fern123]

Oh .. forgot to tell you ive found Margaret (Maggie) Campbell birth!!.. she was born 27 August 1863 Selkirk Scotland. Father William Campbell mother Catherine Cranston
Fern