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Re: Dee's Scavenger Hunt Part 2 (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #72 on: Monday 17 March 08 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny

do you think This could be the other Child?


Cecil Charles H Lennard b 1882 Wandsworth
death;
Cecil Charles H Lennard b 1882, died June q 1883 Wandsworth

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #73 on: Monday 17 March 08 13:41 GMT (UK) »
another question:

If Joseph Cecil Lennard went through all the 'scandal' of having a divorce in 1886 why on earth would he say he is married still in the 1891 census . What would your status be if you did get divorced ... single?  I have not yet come across a divorcee before  :-\

can't see Charlotte at all  .... have tried some marriages for her but none work out!

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #74 on: Monday 17 March 08 13:48 GMT (UK) »
hi Debs, that certainly looks a likely candidate.

Re 1891 status,  Joseph Cecil couldn't really call himself single or unmarried with a child in the house.  I've never seen a divorce that early either, perhaps the enumerator hadn't either  ;D

Perhaps he was telling the truth in 1901 and she had died.. but WHERE!
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« Reply #75 on: Monday 17 March 08 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Dee - the Bauer v Lennard 1887 could be at the LMA, I know they haven't digitised everything so it would be worth sending them an email to check if its there or not and could you have the reference for your friend.
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« Reply #76 on: Monday 17 March 08 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps he was telling the truth in 1901 and she had died.. but WHERE!

Not only WHERE ,but under what NAME ... she could have remarried .... arrrghhhh


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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Dee's Scavenger Hunt Part 2 (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #77 on: Monday 17 March 08 14:55 GMT (UK) »
another question:

If Joseph Cecil Lennard went through all the 'scandal' of having a divorce in 1886 why on earth would he say he is married still in the 1891 census . What would your status be if you did get divorced ... single?  I have not yet come across a divorcee before  :-\
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Just to add my two cents worth ......

Lennard may have been granted a Decree nisi (Not absolute) if there was still a related case before the courts. e.g. Dr Brown was contesting the case.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_nisi

In which case, he would still technically be married until he partitioned for a Final Decree.

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« Reply #78 on: Monday 17 March 08 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Dr Brown did contest and was awarded costs  in Feb 1887  ;D so it was all done and dusted by then



Checking out the Canada side, which you  probably already have (just in case Charlotte Elizabeth is hiding somewhere)

1888 emigration year

29 Apr 1891 Ada Margaret Bauer married Joseph Edwin Taylor, son of Edwin Taylor and Betsy Taylor

13 July 1893 Frederick Harvey Bauer married Mary Dowson, dau of William Dowson and Elizabeth Dowson

23 Jan 1901  -Herbert H Bauer married Sabra Woodhouse, dau of Robert Woodhouse and Hannah Eaton
   
1901 Census
Charlotte M Bauer mother  b 8 feb 1839 original race or tribe  German
Charles J Bauer head  b 23 Dec 1860  original race or tribe English   ?
Nellie M Bauer  sister  b 19 Nov 1873 original race or tribe German  Nurse
Next door is
 Herbert H Bauer head b 14 Oct 1876 original race or tribe German Motorman
Sabra Bauer wife b 26 Mar 1876  native Ontario
Toronto (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 3

13 April 1904 Charles married Emily Hargrave, dau of Joseph Hargrave and Elizabeth Barron

1911 – poor transcription BAUCH
2094 Yonge St N Toronto
Herbert Bauer born Oct 1876 immigration year 1888 labourer
Sabra bauer born march 1875 born Ontario
Wilfred Bauer born Oct 1901
Charles Bauer   born Oct 1903
Grace Bauer born July 1906
Charlotte H Bauer born Mar 1908
Charlotte M Bauer mother born feb 1839 immigration year 1888
All Methodists and all down as original race English except Sabra = German

Charlotte Mary Bauer died 2 Apr 1919 District York Toronto age 81
Disease causing death Colitis 3 weeks
Immediate cause of death … carditis ? 8 days
Name of informant Charles H Watson . 1058 Younge street


You are right Charlotte is the only one not with the family in Canada

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« Reply #79 on: Monday 17 March 08 16:08 GMT (UK) »
WOOOO  HOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

marriage
31 Dec 1917 York District, Toronto

Charlotte Elizabeth Lennard
age 58
father Hugh Baner
mother Mary Osborne
married James Fiddament 
born Norwich England
father James Fiddament
mother Charlotte Stevens

witness Fred H Bauer,  85 Courcelette Rd, Beach, Toronto
Witness Annie Davis

what a porkie  = WIDOW!   :o :o :o
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« Reply #80 on: Monday 17 March 08 16:28 GMT (UK) »


 WOW WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!! WELL DONE!!!
So she did eventually go to Canada ... where was she inbetween .... arrghhhhh ..... at least we don't have to hunt for her death or another marriage as she married James using her married name .... ;D ;D

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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