Henry WARREN

[lucaduca]

Silvery I will apply on line for Henry's marriage cert , which program did you find Edward's second name, I find that name unusual. For the past 15yrs i have been searching my Mother'sCornwall side, Reseigh, Colenso weymouth, White, hocking etc, then my Welsh Bowens which has been very difficult but lately i've had some luck, my g'g' grandmother was irish Sarah Burns  1823 she married James Crothers of Illogan cornwall,it could go on forever ,but I so enjoy searching.quote author=silvery link=topic=266140.msg1511646#msg1511646 date=1194300449]
Blimey      what a ......... I am.  You DID say in one of the replies married to Grace Stephens, Australia.   Oh Oh Oh  Pay attention silvery.

I was searching in UK.  Right got it!  So you are happy with the census returns info etc etc.  Forget marriage cert for your grandfather.  My fault.   

Just that marriage cert then for Amelia and Henry 1840, for the father's names.  Then you can go back - possibly on the igi.   It may be that one from Kenn, you never know.  It's definitely igi or parish records for that time.

It's a nice very early marriage cert to have.  My earliest is 1853.  And then they fade out in Ireland.  No chance of finding them.

[silvery]

Glad you aren't mad at me !

Births Sep 1848 
Warren    Edward Penioud Languin        Stourbridge    18   518

That is from freebmd 
http://www.freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

It is just very circumstantial with the middle name.  Amelia Penicud on the marriage reference, they are just so alike. (given odd pronunciation, accents, spelling and so on).  I wonder why they gave him that middle name, he's not the eldest or anything.

Freebmd is very good, but it wasn't compulsory to register until 1875 (I think about that year).  That is where the marriage reference is from.  Penicud/Penicott etc sounds vaguely Cornish to me.  I wouldn't be surprised. 

You're so lucky having English ancestry.  Mine are nearly all Irish. I had one Welsh Jones line.  My, but they seemed to throw themselves at me, which was most unusual.  And it was all confirmed by another researcher I so so wish I had an Enlgish line to research.  My ex-OH has a lovely English background. Did it for the family.  Managed to get wills and all sorts.

Well I hope Edward is yours.  Let us know how you get on.

[lucaduca]

No Iam not mad at you, maybe at myself, everything for me can be difficult,
I have no sense of direction so I seem to go round the mulberry bush quite a few times before I find the answer, Ihave just ordered marriage cert ,looking
forward to its arrrival .

[lucaduca]

 Suz , many thanks for your offer I would love to have those  copies, I have ordered online for Henry's and Amelia's marriage cert' which will give me new leads , hopefully

Not much help as far as births go -but I have them in 1841 and 1851 if you need them

Suz

[lucaduca]

Silvery, henry's marriage certificate arrived today, not much info on it....   Aug 9th 1840 h. warren, bootmaker of regent st, Surry, father's name john warren bootmaker, amelia penicud  of manners  st, surry, father john penicud mariner. I have searched everywhere i know but cannot find anything execpt perhaps john's wife could be a mary toms  'marriage 28/10/1806 Christow, devon, she  christened 05/07/1784 devon. i cannot find a birth for john warren nor do i have a full birth date for henry,
can you help.
quote author=silvery link=topic=266140.msg1511752#msg1511752 date=1194304050]
Glad you aren't mad at me !

Births Sep 1848 
Warren    Edward Penioud Languin        Stourbridge    18   518

That is from freebmd 
http://www.freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

It is just very circumstantial with the middle name.  Amelia Penicud on the marriage reference, they are just so alike. (given odd pronunciation, accents, spelling and so on).  I wonder why they gave him that middle name, he's not the eldest or anything.

Freebmd is very good, but it wasn't compulsory to register until 1875 (I think about that year).  That is where the marriage reference is from.  Penicud/Penicott etc sounds vaguely Cornish to me.  I wouldn't be surprised. 

You're so lucky having English ancestry.  Mine are nearly all Irish. I had one Welsh Jones line.  My, but they seemed to throw themselves at me, which was most unusual.  And it was all confirmed by another researcher I so so wish I had an Enlgish line to research.  My ex-OH has a lovely English background. Did it for the family.  Managed to get wills and all sorts.

Well I hope Edward is yours.  Let us know how you get on.

[silvery]

posts getting messy lucaduca.  Could you just hit the 'reply' button, and do post?   

[silvery]

Silvery, henry's marriage certificate arrived today, not much info on it....   Aug 9th 1840 h. warren, bootmaker of regent st, Surry, father's name john warren bootmaker, amelia penicud  of manners  st, surry, father john penicud mariner. I have searched everywhere i know but cannot find anything execpt perhaps john's wife could be a mary toms  'marriage 28/10/1806 Christow, devon, she  christened 05/07/1784 devon. i cannot find a birth for john warren nor do i have a full birth date for henry,
can you help.

Will have a go later, have to go out now.  How old were they on the marriage cert?

[lucaduca]

silvery, Their age listed as 'full', one of the marrriage witness's  is a  J B price, on the 1881 Surry census,Ancestry.co.uk John penicud age 60 of devonport listed as visitor, others are;  Jane wood and John Price wood.
In familysearch.org Devon census
James B price widower , occupation Cutler(Master)? 10 King st, Stoke Damerel
also  at number 10  king st, family of Charles Price working Cutler, age 35 wife
Hanna 35, son  Charles 13, son Frederick 10, visitor Evalena Hunking,
perhaps a connection here.