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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #162 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 13:57 GMT (UK) »
 :) Hi Deb

Once again a great idea a scavenger hunt,  and with Joseph Orchard being my gg granmothers  Harriet Lee (nee Smith) brother-inlaw (sister toTiggi's Betsy)
we are related, distantly but related,   There's more but I'll have to check it out or tiggi will be at me (I call her Sherlock)  

Tiggi delighted to hear another Relly, its soo good when you have a little ggod luck isnt it,

Colleen
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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #163 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:02 GMT (UK) »



I think my posts must have vanished from earlier when I asked if Tiggi and Colleena would like to be on the Scavenger Hunt list ...........   ;D

So ......... would you like to be on the Scavenger Hunt list??


Barbara
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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #164 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:08 GMT (UK) »
this is what i have Gleaned from the other two posts, i have not trawled through this one yet!

Confirmed info. only. - so it will not all be here

in no particular order

Census:

Thomas Penfold b.1841 & Sophia /Soffia Orchard  RG12/1822 114 14 , (1891)
John Pinfold/Penfold b.1809 & Hariett James RG9/1601 fol 40 pg 30 (1861)
Harriet Penfold nee James RG10/2148 fol 41 p 16 (1871)
Robert Penfold b. 1816 RG9/1370 104 22 (1861) RG10/2008 folio 13 pg 18 (1871) RG11 2086 159 22 (1881)
Maria Thompson nee Penfold b. 1831 RG9/1370 104 22 (1861)
William Penfold & Bessie Palmer RG13 2222 foilio 47 page 15 (1901)
RG11/2086 folio 160 page 23 (1881)
Henry Penfold (s/o Robert & Amelia) RG11   2086 / 159   22 (1881)
Thomas Penfold (s/o Robert & Amelia) RG11   2086 / 159   22 (1881)
James Penfold (s/o Robert & Amelia) RG11   2086 / 159   22 (1881)
Christopher Penfold & Patience nee Geust RG10/2096 folio 119 pg 17 (1871)
Christina Penfold/William Orchard 1898 St Austell marriage individuals. RG13/2121 folio 8 pg 8 (1901) and RG11/2416 folio 49 pg 11 (1881)
John and Sarah Orchard RG12/1810 folio 77 pg 19 (1891) RG11; 2416; 49; 11; (1881)
Leonard Penfold RG13/2126 folio 63 pg6 (1901)
Henry Penfold & Ocean nee Hughes RG12/1771 folio 73 pg11 (1891) and RG11/2243 folio 80 pg 36 (1881)
William (brother of John b. 1809 & Robert b.1816 & Maria b. 1831) RG10/2008 folio 13 pg 18 (1871)
Olive Jones nee Penfold (d/o Robert b.1816 & Amelia) RG11; 2086; 160; 23; (1881)
Edward Penfold & Rachel nee Holland RG13/2181 Folio 70 Page 12 Truscott (1901)

James Penfold 1891 Lady St marys Dorset (sorry no RG no. available)
James Orchard (1861) RG9/1606 68 13
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #165 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Marriages:
Henry b.1851/52 Bridgwater m. Ocean HUghes (b 1851 Honiton)
John Pinfold/Penfold  b 1809, Warminster married 2 Aug 1831, Pimperne Dorset to Harriet James  b 1814, Kingclere, Berkshire.
Nelson Penfold married Q1 1904 Camelford 5c 22 to lavinia Richards or Hannah Rush
THOMAS PENFOLD  M. SOPHIA/SOFFIA ORCHARD they married in june qtr 1866 in South Molton
Christona/Christiana  b 1875 married  william Orchard in St austell Cornwall in 1898
Thomas James married Harriet PALMER 23RD DEC 1808 Kingsclere Hants
IGI extracted Robert Penfold =Amelia Page26 dec 1836 Bishops Waltham, Hampshire
JOhn Pinfold = Charlotte Jane Brooks 4 oct 1792, Steyning Sussex (not convinced this it he correct John/Charlotte marriage)
John Palmer & Dinah Pointer 11 Oct 1787 Kingsclere
Christina Penfold      William Orchard     1898 St Austell
Edward                      Mary Ann                    1899 Tavistock
Eliza                           Henry Bundle            1879 Truro
Eliza                           Wiiliam Orchard       1908 Stratton
Fiance                       Andrew Richards     1915 Truro
John                           Maria Crocker          1882 St Austell
John                           Caroline Orchard    1906 Bodmin
Alfred                        Louisa Small             1871 Plymouth
Charlotte                  Henry Gess               1855 Plymouth
Christopher             Patience Guest         1864 Plymouth
Christopher             Maria Boswell           1910 Plymouth
Christopher             Sally Hughes            1915 Torrington Devon
Elizabeth                 Edwin Orchard          1871 Plymouth
Elizabeth                 Gough Smith              1890 Barnstaple
Harriett                    William Small            1915 Plymouth
Leonard                   Sophia Orchard        1912 Exeter
Mary Ann                 Fred Smith                  1881 Chard
Pricilla                      William Orchard       1874 St Thomas Devon
Rachel                     Robert Small             1905 Devonport       
Thomas                  Sophia Orchard         1866 South Molton Devon
William                   Patience Orchard       1912 Exeter
Faithful                   James orchard           1914 Dorchester
Harriett Penfold      Henry Buckland 1896 Plympton/ Devon (Father Tenant Buckland )
Selina Penfold     Joshua Buckland 1887 Totnes Devon (father was Plato Buckland)
William Penfold    Jenty Buckland  1887 Plymouth  ( Father Plato Buckland)
James Penfold    Sophy  Buckland 1887 Plymouth( Father Plato Buckland)

Edward Penfold =Mary Ann Orchard is s/o Thomas Penfold and Sophia Orchard ...he is the brother to my William penfold =Bessie Palmer.
Christopher Penfold (witness) =Carnation Richards and Maria Boswell ...he is also S/o Thomas and Sophia
Eliza Penfold (witness) = William Orchard ...she is d/o Thomas Penfold and Sophia OrchardChristiana 1875c. Cornwall Grampound m. William Orchard s/o John Orchard & Sarah Q1 1898 St Austell (source BMD)
Harriett Orchard married Edmund Spargo - St Germans, mar qtr 1898, 5c 73
Leonard Penfold to marry Sophia Orchard 1912 Exeter
Calstock
18-Jul 1899

Edward PENFOLD 21 bachelor licensed hawker Calstock Thomas licensed hawker
&
Mary Ann ORCHARD 19 spinster Calstock Henry licensed hawker
by banns
both Marked
witnesses Christopher Penfold & Eliza Penfold

Patience Thompson to Thomas Penfold sep qtr 1871, Wareham, 5a 528

Q4 1853 Penfield Maria & Thompson Henry Southampton 2c 16    (this is Maria Penfold b. 1831)   

William Penfold    Jenty Buckland  1887 Plymouth  ( Father Plato Buckland)
James Penfold    Sophy  Buckland 1887 Plymouth( Father Plato
Buckland) RG11/2186 folio 56 pg 1&2 (1881)
Edward PENFOLD = Rachel HOLLAND Jun 1/4 1875 Crediton 5b 684

Christopher 1877 m. Carnation Richards 14 Nov 1903
Edward 1879c m. Florence Mabel Whitcombe from Meare in 1913
Elizabeth   b c 1885 = William Orchard 1908, Stratton Cornwall

Thomas Penfold married Sophia Orchard
Apr-May-Jun quarter 1866 South Molton 5b  833

elizabeth (betsy) b.1845/6 (dorset) married edwin orchard  b. 1844 in ledbury hereford...... married on15 april 1871
alfred b.1849 married louisa small b.1851 married 15 april 1871

Selina Smith  born 1844 Taunton
married 1886 Plymouth
Henry James  born 1846 Somerset
On their marriage certificate witnessess were Defiance Orchard & William Smith ( brother)

william Smith married Caroline Smitheram 1874 Helston
james father deceased

Peggy  Smith married Joe Orchard 1875 Truro
witnesses were her sister Harriet Smith ( Lee) & robert lee her husband ( James the father was deceased on record)

Betsey Smith married Nelson buckland
Their daughter Edith married Wisdom Smith in Bromsgrove 1872
Nelson parents Tenett buckland who married a Keziah Smith she was born 1832 ( NK)
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #166 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Bapt. / Birth:
Robert 1816 Bremer Wilts
Sophia Penfold mmn. Orchid Q1 1913 South Molton 5b 663
Mis* Penfold Q4 1903 St Columb 5c 72
Selina Penfold 22 feb 1891
Nelson Penfold was born in Helston 13 May 1883 ,Helston, Cornwall
Defiance ORCHARD Mar qtr 1872 Tavistock (d/o Edwin Orchard & Elizabeth nee Penfold)
Christopher Penfold Sept qtr 1877 Redruth
Defiance Penfold baptised in Truro St Marys 22 Sep 1872  parents Robert and Louisa (she is the one who died aged 0 in Penzance)
Henry James born 1790 14th Nov. s/o Robert and Eleanor
Robert bap~22 June 1832 (s/o John & Harriett)
Maria Penfold christened 3 jul 1831, Brockenhurst, Hampshire (batch 1013764) Parents John Penfold and Charlotte
Sarah Harriett Penfold 3 nov 1833 in St Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex under the name Pennifold (not convinced shes connected although she did marry a James)
Madron 15-Oct 1865 Thomas Alfred PENFOLD s/o Robert Louisa Sojourner in Madron Hawker

Harriot Palmer bapt. 09 March 1786 Southampton d/o John Palmer & Jane
here are her siblings:~
Amelia 27 Oct 1782
Anne 29 Dec 1780

PENFOLD Phyllis    mmn. Richards   Liskeard. 5c   91     Q2   1920           
PENFOLD Sophia    mmn. Richards   Bodmin.  5c   111   Q4   1914   

Penfold Births with mother Orchard:    (found on FreeBMD)

Susanna    1912                  Holsworthy
Amy            1913                 Okehampton
Defiance     1915 (Jun)         unclear
Nelson        1915 (Dec)        Axbridge
Betsy          1916                 Holsworthy
Thomas       1917                 Axbridge
Alfred W      1920 (Mar)       Bridgewater
Caroline      1920 (Jun)        Crediton

Henry son of Robert & Amelia Penfold Hawker 15 June 1855 at Lytchett Minster
Elizabeth daughter of Robert & Amelia Penfold Pedlar 1 Jan 1860 at Chickerell
Births. Fiance Penfold 1872 Redruth...

St Enoder Baptisms

21 Sep 1882, Edward PENFOLD, son of Edward and Rachel, Hawker at Summercourt Fair, Plymouth usual abode.

Pricilla PENFOLD, birth, Dec qtr 1860, Dorchester (Dorset), Vol 5a, page 313

Robert PENFOLD, bap 22 Jun 1832, parents John & Harriet, Up Nately, Hampshire.

( i will modify this later i know i have missed a couple!)
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #167 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Deaths:
John Penfold b 1809, died 21 feb 1870.
Defiance Penfold died age 0 Q2 1873 Penzance 5c 186
Missellie Penfold died age 1 Newton Abbot Q1 1908 5b 97
William Penfold & Bessie Penfold nee Palmer both died 1926
Truro Cemetery Ref 1171 Christopher PENFOLD 17 Apr 1959 Age 58 (He is Christopher b 1901)
PENFOLD  Thomas  70  St Columb  vol. 5c page 98

Monumental Inscription:  St George's, Portland

In loving memory of Alice Penfold beloved wife of James Penfold who died June 22 1932 aged 58 years


Carnation Penfold nee Richards d/o Justinyen/Justinian Richards, she died age 23 , 17 jan 1906 , of acute TB

Florence Mabel Penfold nee Whitcombe d. 1917
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #168 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Other Notes:
John penfold b 1897 went to WW1 ...but came back and died of Pneumonia
William Penfold (who married Bessie Palmer) was in a war, but we have been told it was the Boer war
Frederick Penfold died 4/10/1917 – is not connected


Possible issue of John & Harriet James.

John (Q1,1837,Kingsclere,7,81)
Sarah (Q4,1838, Brighton,7,310)
Tom (Q1,1840, Midhurst,7,385)
Charlotte (Q3, 1846,Worthing,7,544)
Christopher (Q2,1845, Midhurst,7,414)
Alfred (Q2,1848,Lewes,7,116)
Henry (Q2,1851, Worthing,7,592)
Edward (Q1,1853,Worthing,2b,286)

Possible issue of Thomas & Sophia Orchard.

Fiance (Q3,1872,Redruth,5c,240)
Christopher (Q3,1877,Redruth,5c,222)
Nelson (Q1, 1883,St. Columb,5c,93)
Harriet (Q3,1891, Bideford,5b,492)

John (Q4,1837,Kingsclere,7,84)
Emily (Q4,1888,Kingsclere,7,94)
George (Q3, 1842, Kingsclere,7,104)


RG11; 2529; 120; 85
United Alms Houses Wooten St Mary
Sophia Orchard 36   Inmate (Head) (Inmate)   Female
born: Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Windower (Widower)
Occupation: Nurse To United Hospital (Inst Ser)

Possible issue of Edward Penfold & Rachel Holland

Laurel Sep 1/4 1885 Totnes 5b 169
Harriet Sep 1/4 1891 Bideford 5b 492
Thomas Dec 1/4 1892 Williton 5c 277
Christopher Sep 1/4 1894 Williton 5c 2_0
Moses Mar 1/4 1896 Williton 5c 265

I don't see a John in Somerset

The nearest I can see for J 13 is

James Mar 1/4 1889 Barnstaple 5b 474

Looking good for Pricilla PENFOLD, 6 months, b Dorchester,a daughter living with Robert and Amelia PENFOLD in Uplyme Devon in the 1861 (in the list of persons not in houses).
And in 1871 with Robert and Amelia as daughter Pricilla PENFOLD age 11 (though she is listed as b Leigh Dorset - but her 13yo sister is listed as b Dorchester).
But 1881 throws a spanner in the works.  Robert and Amelia still have a daughter Priscilla with them - age 18 born Ibberton Dorset.


so it could be James & keziah are brother & sister
but where does Wisdom fit ?
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #169 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:12 GMT (UK) »
TONI ...Blimey .... Thanks ..... WOW  :o :o :o... Unbelievable !!

********* = Gold stars for Toni

deb :D ;D
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #170 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Any links in this topic with Elizabeth Penfold b 1808 Bramley Hants who married William Munday b 1808 Kingsclere, Hants  . They married on 29 Sept 1830 in Kingsclere . Elizabeth died in 1839 leaving two young children ? 

My Great x 3 grandparents !
Wingham - Brighton, Sussex ,London
Hedgecock - Sussex
Green - Kent , Sussex ,Gloucs
Wescombe - Kent , Sussex
Holloway - Oldbury, Worcs
Hixson - Oystermouth, Glamorgan
Marshall - Ashton Under Lyne,
Lee - Ashton Under Lyne
Kift - Glamorgan
Bushnell, - Oxfordshire
Munday - Hampshire , Oxfordshire
Naylor - Bakewell, Derbyshire
Bramwell - Bakewell, Derbyshire
Messenger - Oxfordshire
Allwright - Oxfordshire
Harvey - Bow and Poplar , East London .
Camebus - East London , Croydon