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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #45 on: Monday 05 November 07 22:48 GMT (UK) »
ok brief Summary:

John Penfold & Charlotte Unknown (Is Unknown a real surname?)
children:
John b. 1809 Warminster Wilts
(missing children?)
Robert b.1816 Bremer Wilts
(Missing children?)
Olivia bapt 29 March 1829 Porchester (new line new line)
Maria b. 1831 Brockenhurst Hamts
William b. 1833 Woodgreen Hants (not confirmed as yet)
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John Pinfold (sic) b.1809 Warminster m. Harriett James b.1814 Kingsclere  02 Aug 1831 Pimperne Dorset (IGI Batch M159791)
children:~
Robert b.1832 m. Fiance Smith
Sarah Harriett bapt. 03 Nov 1833 St Nicholas Brighton under the name of Pennifold m. James Unknwon (not confirmed child of John & Harriet looking like she was not their child but have listed her here in case)
John b.1834 m. Charlotte Unknown.
William b.1836 m. Diane Sophie hewson
Charlotte b. 1838 m. Henry Geuss /Gess 1858
Thomas b.1841 m. Sohia / Soffia Orchard
Elizabeth (aka Betsey) b. 1845/6 m. Edwin orchard b. Ledbury 1844 m 15 April 1871
Alfred b. 1849 m. Louisa Small b. 1851 m. 15 April 1871
Henry b. 1851/2 m. Ocean Hughes b.1851 Honiton
Edward b.1853 m. Rachel Holland
1861 census RG9 1601 40 30
1871 census RG10 2148 41 16
 
Harriett James d/o Thomas James & harriett Palmer m. 23 Dec 1808 Kingsclere. (not sure here but Thomas could have been the son of Henry James b. 14 Nov 1790 s/o Robert & Eleanor) other children of Thomas James & harriett Palmer are:
Thomas James b. 1815 m. Mary Jane Holland (son Joseph james appear son 1871 with HarriettPenfold nee James)
Priscilla b.1816c
John James b. 1819c
Eliza b.1825c
Rebecca b.1830c.
(missing children)
1851 for Thomas & Harriett James (nee Palmer)Corscombe Dorset
1861 do. Chcikerell Dorset (with Rebecca James and John James grandson poss. Rebeccas child???)
a sibling of Harriett Palmers: (harriet James mother)
John Palmer m. Dinah Pointer 11 Oct 1787 Kingsclere

Robert b. 1816 Bremer Wilts m. Amelia Page 26 Dec 1836 Bishops Waltham Hampshire (IGI)
children:~
Robert M 1838 Southampton
(missing children?)
Thomas b. 1849 Exeter
James b.1850 bridgwater
Ollof b.1853 Withridge
Henry b.1855 Yeovil
Elizabeth b.1859 Dorchester
Pricilla 6 monthes on 1861 census (b. late 1860)
1871 census RG10 2008 13 18
1881 census RG11 2086 159 22

Maria Penfold b. 1831 Brockenhurst bapt. 03 July 1831 (IGI I013764) m. Henry Thompson Q4 1853 Southampton 2c 16
child Henry Thompson  b.1855 Prath (age 6 in 1861)
1861 census  living with brother Robert
Maria Thompson age 29  born Brockners, Hampshire sister (of Robert) and hawker
Henry 6 born Prath nephew (of Robert)

William Penfold b. 1833 Woodgreen/groom hants m. Pricilla Thompson b.1832c
children:~
Pricilla - b. 1855 Portsmouth
Charlotte -b.1856  do.
Amos - b.1863 Shirley
Robert b. 1864 do. m. Esther Unk.
Henry - b.1865 - do.
Hollis - b. 1866  Portsmouth (Olive)
Patience - b.1868 - do
Rachel - b.1870- do.
Robert b.1875 North Perrott
Frederick b.1879 Lymington.
1871 RG10 2008 13 18
also at address in 1871 Patience Tomson - sister in law - 22 - Sho?(shoreham?), Sussex
1881 RG11 2102 55 21
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to be continued with the next generation!












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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #46 on: Monday 05 November 07 23:15 GMT (UK) »
forgot to say that William b.1833 is living atthe same place as Robert b.1816 in 1871
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ok this is where it gets confusing!

Charlotte b. 1838  d/o John Pinfold & Harriett James  m. Henry Gess in 1891 were in Battersea with children Mary age 16 b. Helston, Rebecca 14 b. Plymouth & Alfred 9 b. Helston

Thomas b. 1841 s/o John Pinfold & Harriett James m. Sophia/Soffia Orchard b. 1846c. in South Molton Q2 1866
children
William 1871 m. Bessie Palmer
Defiance 1872 (she appears in the 1891 census aged 19 but where was she before?)
John b.1874
Christoanna 1875c
Christopher b.1877
Edward 1879
Soffia 1881
Nelson 1883
Elizabeth 1885
Harriett 1887
Missia 1890
Selina bapt. 22 feb 1891 Par cornwall (IGI, under Pinfold)

Henry b. 1851 (s/o JOhn Pinfold & Harriett James) m. Ocean Hughes had a lot of children Betsy, Defiance, Orfius John Noah Vashti Albert Leonard (leonard m. another Sophia Orchard) sophie william & caroline

Thomas b. 1849 s/o Robert & Amelia m. Patience Unk. children, Patience, Robert P, Elizabeth, 1881 census RG11 2086  160  23
 
James b. 1850 s/o Robert & Amelia m. Priscilla Unk. children, Priscilla, John, patience 1881 census RG11 2086  160  23

Henry b.1855  bapt. Henry son of Robert & Amelia Penfold Hawker 15 June 1855 at Lytchett Minster
s/o Robert & Amelia m. Charlotte Unk. children Henry, William, Charlotte, Amelia 1881 census RG11 2086  160  23
(all separate households)


Edward b. 1853 s/o John & harriett, m. Rachel Holland  Jun 1/4 1875 Crediton 5b 684
1901 census
RG13/2181 70 12
Truscott Tweenways Road
St Stephen by Lauceston
PENFOLD Edward Head 48 Mar b Cornwall Hawker and Horse Dealer
PENFOLD R Wife 46 Mar b Devon
PENFOLD John Son 19 b Somerset
PENFOLD L Son 16 b Devon
PENFOLD J Son 13 b Devon
PENFOLD H Dau 9 b Devon
PENFOLD T Son 7 b Somerset
PENFOLD C Son 6 b Somerset
PENFOLD M Son 5 b Somerset
(full details posted as initials and sex only given for children)
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and the next generation.

William b. 1871 (s/o Thomas & Sophia) m. Bessie Palmer Falmouth 8 jan 1898
Children:
John b 1897 d 1922
Christianna b june q 1898 d Sept q 1898
Thomas b sept q 1899 Truro
Christopher b Mar q 1901 Truro
Sophia b sept q 1902 =william Barron
William b sept q 1904 Truro
Edward b Mar 1908 Truro
Nelson b June q 1910 Truro = Pearlie Hawkins
Walter b Jun 1912 Truro = no.1 Marjorie?? (3 kids), no.2 Muriel?? (2 kids)
Violet Venie b 19 March 1914 = Thomas Philip James Debs grandparents
Stanley Moses b 1815

There were other children too ...  Miselli who supposedly died young,
Minnie died 2001
Renie Penfold b ?? = Bill Crutchley
Harold b 1920 ?

Edward (s/o Thomas & Sophia) b. 1879 - 1901 censusRG13/2181 71 13 Truscott Tweenways Road
Edward 1879c m. Florence Mabel Whitcombe from Meare in 1913 Florence d. 1917 and Edward remarried Elizabeth Whitcombe

John 1874c.(s/o Thomas & Sophia) m. Ellen Small
children:~
Mark, Eliza John Vashtie Missellie Genty Edward Priscilla Harriet Sophie Helen

Christiana 1875c. d/o Thomas & Sophia Cornwall Grampound m. William Orchard s/o John Orchard & Sarah Q1 1898 St Austell (source BMD)
children:~
Edmund 1900c Calstock
Joseph 1901c Mary Tavy
1901 - RG13/2121 8  8

Christopher 1877 s/o Thomas & Sophia  m. Carnation Richards 14 Nov 1903 , child : Edward/Eddy he was 3 when his mum died.
Carnation Richards d/o Justinyen/Justinian Richards, she died age 23 , 17 jan 1906 , of acute TB
Christopher Penfold then married for a 2nd time ...to Mariah/Maria BOSWELL

Nelson b.1883 s/o Thomas & Sophia  m. 1904 to Lavinia Richards or Hannah Rush (need to cert to confirm who but there are briths for Penfold/Richards children 1911-1920 but none for Penfold/Rush)

Elizabeth   b c 1885 = William Orchard 1908, Stratton Cornwall

Harriett   1887 m. William Small  1915 Plymouth (source Romanygenes) sorry ishe could have been this marriage  :-\Harriett Penfold      Henry Buckland 1896 Plympton/ Devon (Father Tenant Buckland )

Selina Penfold 1891   Joshua Buckland 1887 Totnes Devon ( father was Plato Buckland ) (Source Romanygenes)
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Genty Penfold d/o John & ellen nee Small m. John Albert James s/o Vashtie James
children:
John William Vashtie Jenty Liberty



i think thats what we got for now.
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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 00:02 GMT (UK) »
HOLY MOLY toni ...I am making you a honourary PENFOLD !!!  ;D ;D

Fabulous job !

Bearkat...thanks so much ... I think you may have found another branch of John snr and Charlotte?? ...some of the extended family have called their girls Olive ...altho it appears on the census as Hollif/Oliff etc

need to re-read .... great work everyone ... woohoooooo .....

deb :D
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 00:13 GMT (UK) »
Deb:

You know I'm constantly looking for your PENFOLDs!

May I please be added to the list? 

Thanks!

badger
LUFF:  Illinois; Middx; Surrey; Berks
HEARNE:  Kent; Norfolk
HATHAWAY:  USA; Gloucestershire
OVENDEN:  Kent
WELLER:  Kent
SIMKINS:  Berks
WILLIAMS:  Bucks
CHARLEWOOD/CHARLWOOD:  Berks
HOPKINS: Hampshire
GILBERT: USA; Somersetshire
COCKS: Berks (?)

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 00:24 GMT (UK) »
BADGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG     ;D ;D


nice to see you here ... different pace than rootschat ... people here are fabulous  :D :D

okay ...this is MY turn .... your name will definitely go on the list for hard to find people ...

i will call you

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 00:51 GMT (UK) »
Deleted.....Bearkat had already posted.......  :-[

But is this the baptism of John and Harriet Penfold's daughter Charlotte ?

Charlotte Penfold daughter of John & Harriett Penfold was baptised 2 Sep 1838 at North Stoneham, Hampshire
.....dee

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 05:56 GMT (UK) »



Hi Badger, welcome to our Scavenger Hunts I'll  add your name to the list now.


Barbara
Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.<br />Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden<br />Lamb In Bolton and Ireland<br />Grundy In Bolton<br />Blackledge In Bolton<br />Osbaldeston  ?? ??<br />Barnett in Islington<br />Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 06:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much!
LUFF:  Illinois; Middx; Surrey; Berks
HEARNE:  Kent; Norfolk
HATHAWAY:  USA; Gloucestershire
OVENDEN:  Kent
WELLER:  Kent
SIMKINS:  Berks
WILLIAMS:  Bucks
CHARLEWOOD/CHARLWOOD:  Berks
HOPKINS: Hampshire
GILBERT: USA; Somersetshire
COCKS: Berks (?)

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Re: DebUSA Scavenger Hunt Part 2. (Everybody welcome to join in)
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 08:32 GMT (UK) »
Deleted.....Bearkat had already posted.......  :-[

But is this the baptism of John and Harriet Penfold's daughter Charlotte ?

Charlotte Penfold daughter of John & Harriett Penfold was baptised 2 Sep 1838 at North Stoneham, Hampshire
.....dee



well done  8)
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