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Offline little meg

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SA birth for COE
« on: Sunday 04 November 07 01:48 GMT (UK) »
could someone please help me find the following person.

James Newman Coe
born circa 1857
Parents: Charles Coe and Jane Newman.

There was one James Newman Coe born in 1854 SA, but he died around 1854/55 and then the next son was named after him, this is the one I am trying to find.
Some people have said he was born in Vic, but I cannot find him there.

Any help appreciated  ;)

Margaret
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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 November 07 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Margaret,

This is the only birth of a James Newman Coe in the Index......

James Newman COE born 3 Feb 1855 at Hindmarsh
Parents: Charles COE & Jane NEWMAN
Ref: Ade 5/106

It was also the only birth to that couple....

.....dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 November 07 02:48 GMT (UK) »
And this looks like his death......

James COE aged 18 mths died 30 Jul 1856 at Coxs Creek
Ref: MtB 6/1
No relative listed.

MtB is Mount Barker in the Adelaide Hills.

I did another search for a birth using just the mother's name only.....in case of mistranscription......but nothing turned up.

......dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 November 07 02:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Dee, :)
shall keep looking elsewhere, might be one of those annoying little mysteries ;)

Margaret
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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 November 07 03:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Meg,
According to another searcher on worldconnect, [or maybe it is your good self]!!......
The family moved to live around Williamstown in Vic.
At the Williamstown Cemetery there are interments for Jane. Charles and some other COE'S who are possibly connected.
One is ANNE JANE died1885, ther is another infant.
The locations of these children make it less certain that they are related, but the parents are together.
Sue
http://www.altonamemorialpark.com.au/VirtualMemorial/VirtualPark.asp
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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 November 07 03:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi sue,
that is the same family, thanks.
I am actually looking on behalf of someone else, but not the person in Worldconnect. (she knows of her though)

The James Newman Coe is buried at Williamstown, my contact has details on his marriage and family, hence the fact that we do know he does exist.   ;D

but where he was born is the question ???

Margaret
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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 November 07 03:19 GMT (UK) »
Question:
Is it possible he would have been registered 'on ship', is there a separate index for this.
They would have travelled from SA to Vic around the time of his birth.

Although there is always the chance that they just didn't register him at all  ;D

margaret
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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 November 07 03:23 GMT (UK) »
I was wondering if they may have travelled overland, Margaret..... Mt Barker district would have been on the start of a journey in that direction. If they made the long slow trip overland, a birth may well have not been registered.   :-\

.....dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: SA birth for Coe
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 November 07 03:30 GMT (UK) »
That makes a lot of sense Dee,
knew I could count on you  ;D

we have looked at some Vic shipping but most of that covers shipping from overseas.

thanks again

Margaret
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