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Hi All, Help please
« on: Saturday 03 November 07 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Can you help please Help me try and find his sons my Gr/Unl Harold Edward Skinner and family emigrated to Winnipeg Manitoba he enlisted in 1915 and  was  at Stonewall Manitoba When he in listed under Edward Skinner, i have records of this.

I have him on the 1911 Census for Winnipeg, his wife Emily was from ireland born 1877 and Harold was born in 1877 england  poss date +- 5 years.

their first son Harold Edward Skinner born in the UK,  his 2nd Patrick F Skinner born in the UK, thy are on the 1911 Census with sisters and the last address i have for Harold is Just the towns name Stonewall.
 can you help me please with any info thanks ke

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Re: Hi ALL HELP PLEASE
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 November 07 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat!

I know you have this information, but I am putting on here so that others can see the information. (it sometimes makes it easier)

1911 Census

Living at 363 York, Winnipeg, Manitoba - Occupation Accountant

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test16.jsp?id=33570


Attestation Papers

Living in Stonewall, Manitoba - Occupation Bank Accountant

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/098256a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/098256b.gif

Children:
Harold Edward (Birth: 1903)
Patrick F. (Birth: 1904)
Eileen M. (Birth: 1910)


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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Hi ALL HELP PLEASE
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 November 07 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Their son Harold Edward Skinner died in British Columbia.

Death:

Name:     Harold Edward Skinner
Date:       December 16th, 1966 
Age:        63
Place:    Essondale

This could be Patrick also in British Columbia.

Death:

Name:     Patrick Francis Skinner
Date:       February 10th, 1976
Age:        71
Place:    Victoria

Information was found on the B.C. Archives Site.

British Columbia Archives
http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-118D034/index.htm

B.C. Cemetery Finding Aid
http://www.islandnet.com/bccfa/

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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Hi All, Help please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 November 07 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Manitoba

Cemetery Listings

Lots of Skinner's
http://winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemeteries/brookside/brooksidesi_soz.html

Janice
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie


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Re: Hi All, Help please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Manitoba

Cemetery Listings

Lots of Skinner's
http://winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemeteries/brookside/brooksidesi_soz.html

Janice

Hi From Kevin A Big Thank you . :)my Mothers Uncle was quite a character ? i will post the story on the site he did live with my mother for few years and my mum was very fond of him. he was definately a traveller and after ww1 went back to Canadia and road the rails for a time then went travelling all over. poss the world and came back to the uk on his own.will post more on his story sad at times and he was also a bad lad but nice as well??

kev 

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Re: Hi All, Help please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 November 07 00:00 GMT (UK) »
Manitoba

Cemetery Listings

Lots of Skinner's
http://winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemeteries/brookside/brooksidesi_soz.html

Janice

Hi From Kevin A Big Thank you . :)my Mothers Uncle was quite a character ? i will post the story on the site he did live with my mother for few years and my mum was very fond of him. he was definately a traveller and after ww1 went back to Canadia and road the rails for a time then went travelling all over. poss the world and came back to the uk on his own.will post more on his story sad at times and he was also a bad lad but nice as well??

kev 


Short report
 Harold Edward Skinner Born July 1877 Barnsbury Middlesex. birth rec Sep 
 1881 Cnsus 33 Barkworth Road Camberwell Surrey
 1901 Cnsus 41 Fernhead Road Paddingtonoct
 1902 marriage 
 1903 marriage Emily Daniells b1877
 1903 Edward born
 1904 Patrick ??
 1907 was accontant for cleveland asylum (now Middlesex Hospital)
 1907 oct 25 Old Baily at Age 30 guilty 18 months in Pentonville prison
 Believed to be paid to leave for canada??
 Believed to be a Freemason
 Believed to work for the Hudson Bay Co ????
 was in the Canadian Army ww1 Belived to be RSM?? in the Princess Patricia Canadian Light Infantry  Military enlistment 11 Dec 1915 age 38     number 721224  Canadan Army over-seas experditonry force
 Visited family in uk on Christmas bought nuts, fruit and a dresses.
poss in the 1920 riding the rod,s all round Canada believed?
he was A Naturist.


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Re: Hi All, Help please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 November 07 02:51 GMT (UK) »
The 1911 did say that he worked as an accountant for a Department store, so it could well have been the Hudson's Bay retail store. Can check the directories for the era, if you wish...as he might have stated the place of employ...or he may just have put Dept. store as in census...
I have some search requests, so I will get down to the leg. library sometime soon...

Haha...the old bank in Stonewalll, pretty old building, but I think it was a coffehouse last time I was there!! Lovely little town, by the way.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 November 07 03:51 GMT (UK) »
My mistake  :P  Not "Bank". It says "Book Keeper - Accountant"

Patrick Francis Skinner according to the FreeBMD was born in the 2nd Quarter of 1904 in Pancras.

According to the census he was born in March 1904.

I imagine that Harold Edward Skinner was the one born in Hendon in 1st Quarter of 1903?

Marriage in 3rd Quarter of Harold Edward Skinner & Emily Daniells.

1881 Census

# 33 Barkworth Rd
Camberwell, Surrey, England 

Francis SKINNER   
Head     
Age: 39   
Birthplace: Worcester, England   
Occupation: Commercial Clerk     

Eliza SKINNER   
Wife 
Age: 24   
Birthplace: Camden Town, Middlesex, England       

Edith SKINNER   
Daughter     
Age: 5   
Birthplace: Islington, Middlesex, England       

Harold E. SKINNER   
Son     
Age: 3   
Birthplace: Barnsbury, Middlesex, England 



1901 Census England

Harold E Skinner
Age: 22
Where Born: Islington London
Administrative County: Middlesex
Civil Parish: Paddington
Occ: General Clerk In Poor Saw Institerer


Emily Daniells
Age: 24
Where Born: Ireland Dublin
Administrative County: London
Civil Parish: Saint Pancras
Occ: Local Nurse Hospital

Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 November 07 05:17 GMT (UK) »
Here are some links that might interest you.

Stonewall, Manitoba
http://www.stonewall.ca/residents/notices.asp?ID=101

Hudson's Bay Company Archives
http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/index.html

Books
Ourroots
http://www.ourroots.ca/

Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry
http://www.ppcli.com/

The Times
Saturday, Aug 24, 1907 pg. 7
Saturday, Aug 24, 1907; pg. 12
Monday, Sep 02, 1907; pg. 15
Monday, Sep 16, 1907; pg. 11
Monday, Sep 16, 1907; pg. 16
Saturday, Sep 28, 1907; pg. 9
Saturday, Oct 26, 1907

(If you would like copies of these let me know)


Military Cross
Friday, Feb 14, 1919; pg. 11

Anatomy School Mystery
Monday, Apr 06, 1925; pg. 9

Janice
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie