THOMSON LONDON & GLOUCESTERSHIRE - 1891

[juliet]

Hello Readers,   Is there a really helpful person out there who could assist me on the following:

  Am trying to find the following in 1891  Census - Fredrick or Frederick Graham THOMSON (no 'P' in spelling)
hopefully living at 19 Cromwell Road West London
Wife named Grace

Also his brother, Denzil Charles Fredrick (or Frederick) THOMSON living in London.

I am trying to go 'forward' rather than back to see if I have any distant cousins in UK.

Thank you in advance of any responses.

From a great and sunny New Zealand

[Gram 58]

Hi Juliet,found Denzil.
23 Carlton Hill Court,Marylebone,London
Denzil C.F Thomson 47 Wine merchant  b.St Pancras,London
Charles W.H Thomson 19 clerk to merchant  b.Marylebone
Sydney D Thomson  18 clerk to notary           b.Marylebone
Percy S Thomson 16 clerk to stockbroker        b. Marylebone
Susan Payne 24  servant cook                        b.Hatfield Heath
Florence Owers 20  housemaid                       b.Walworth
Denzil is described as married but no sign of any wife.
 Can`t find anything for Frederick &Grace.
                      Gram

[PaulineJ]

1881 result for Denzil & Family, now where is family in 1891?

 Denzil C. F. THOMPSON   Head   M   Male   37   St Pancras, Middlesex, England   Wine Merchant    
 Henrietta M.A. THOMPSON   Wife   M   Female   30   Hampstead, Middlesex, England        
 Charles W.H. THOMPSON   Son      Male   9   Hampstead, Middlesex, England   Scholar    
 Sidney D. THOMPSON   Son      Male   8   Hampstead, Middlesex, England   Scholar    
 Percy S. THOMPSON   Son      Male   6   Hampstead, Middlesex, England   Scholar    
 Ethel M. THOMPSON   Daur      Female   4   Hampstead, Middlesex, England        
 Mabel THOMPSON   Daur      Female   10 m   Hampstead, Middlesex, England        
 Ann MACEY   Serv   U   Female   30   Chilmark, Wiltshire, England   Cook    
 Catherine CHINERY   Serv   U   Female   27   Borley, Essex, England   Nurse    
 Emily S. EAGLE   Serv   U   Female   16   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Housemaid    
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Source Information:
  Dwelling   35 Springfield Rd
  Census Place London, Middlesex, England
  Family History Library Film   1341037
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   0170 / 77
  Page Number   15

Have just noticed the three boys (clerks in 1891) are Denzil's sons in 1881!!!

[PaulineJ]

And this chap looks well-to-do, taking a holiday by the coast. Has he returned to London by 1891?

 Fredrick THOMSON   Head   M   Male   33   London, London, Middlesex, England   Stock Exchange    
 Grace THOMSON   Wife   M   Female   26   Neasden, Middlesex, England        
 William THOMSON   Son      Male   4   Kensington, Middlesex, England        
 Winifred THOMSON   Daur      Female   2   Kensington, Middlesex, England        
 Edith THOMSON   Daur      Female   1   Kensington, Middlesex, England        
 Emma HENSHAW   Serv   U   Female   40   Glasbury, Radnorshire, Wales   Domestic Serv Nurse    
 Alice BAKER   Serv      Female   15   Eastcot, Middlesex, England   Domestic Serv Nurse    
 Elizabeth TALBOT   Lodger   W   Female   67   Mansfield, Nottingham, England   Living On Income    
 Mary YEOMANS   Serv   U   Female   23   Woodbourne, Hertford, England   Domestic Serv Housemaid    
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Source Information:
  Dwelling   8 Warrior Square
  Census Place Hastings St Mary Magdalen, Sussex, England
  Family History Library Film   1341243
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   1027 / 27
  Page Number   48

[Chris in 1066Land]

Part Scan of 1891 Enumerators return for

Denzil Thomson  

RG12/ 105/ Folio 32/ Page 25 – 21 Hill Court, St Marylebone, London.

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Here is the family in the 1891 census

RG12/ 34/ Folio 37 / Page 13a  - 19 West Cromwell Road, Kensington, London

They have gone all posh with a 'P' in their surname.



(Hope that works)

The rest of them are on the next page as follows

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there Juliet

As regards your private message:

Hello Chris,

What do I say - but an enormous 'thank you' for all your help and trouble you have gone to.  Yes I will sort out and see if there is a Society near me here in NZ.  Perhaps if I want to move onwards and forwards I should concentrate on the 'males' that are listed.  Would be easier than the sisters I reckon.
I think I shall take your suggestion and follow them through on the 1901 Census - d**n the expense!!
Kind regards,  Juliet

You need to be an 'airmail' member of an English Society, possibly in London - they will have the inside info , contacts, etc that you need.

I have been on to the Federation of Family History Society Web pages

Website http://www.ffhs.org.uk/

and found the following london ones for you

MIDDLESEX  
Hillingdon FHS
CONTACT: Mrs G. May, 20 Moreland Drive, Gerrards Cross, Bucks SL9 8BB
E-MAILS:   Gillmay@dial.pipex.com
WEB-SITE: www.hfhs.co.uk (changed FEB2003)

Also listed under LONDON (Greater London)
 London Westminster & North Middlesex FHS
CONTACT: Mr & Mrs Pyemont, 57 Belvedere Way, Kenton, Harrow, Middlesex HA3 9XQ
WEB-SITE: www.lnmfhs.dircon.co.uk

Also listed under LONDON (Greater London)
 West Middlesex FHS
CONTACT: Mr Paul Kershaw, 241 Waldegrave Road, Twickenham, Middlesex, TW1 4SY
E-MAILS: secretary@west-middlesex-fhs.org.uk
WEB-SITE: www.west-middlesex-fhs.org.uk

Also listed under LONDON (Greater London)
 Westminster & Central Middlesex FHS
please see under London & North Middlesex FHS

I think the best bet would probably be London, Westminster and North Middlesex - but I would e-mail them all, tell them what area and who you are looking for - and are they the correct society for that area of research.

Chris in 1066Land

[Malcolm Hopkins]

Hello Readers,   Is there a really helpful person out there who could assist me on the following:

  Am trying to find the following in 1891  Census - Fredrick or Frederick Graham THOMSON (no 'P' in spelling)
hopefully living at 19 Cromwell Road West London
Wife named Grace

Also his brother, Denzil Charles Fredrick (or Frederick) THOMSON living in London.

I am trying to go 'forward' rather than back to see if I have any distant cousins in UK.

Thank you in advance of any responses.

From a great and sunny New Zealand

Hello Juliet I am unsure if this is the correct way to reply to your post as I have only just registered but no doubt I will be put straight if not.

I do not know if this is the Thomson you are referring to but my Great Grandfather was
Frederick Denzil Thomson (some records show John Frederick Denzil Thomson) born 1845/46 and
lived in "The Oaks" 73 Holden Road, North Finchley, London (also referred to as Woodside Park).

He married Harriet Elizabeth Quinton (sister of Alfred Robert Quinton the Artist)  and they had eight children
Florence Edith Thomson
Gertrude Thomson
Winifred Thomson (my Grandmother)
Archibald F Thomson
Grace Thomson
May Beatrice Thomson
Cecil Thomson
Claude Thomson

Malcolm