GERMANY: TACKE, ECKHARDT, HUBNER.

[Jeanette H]

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It was an answer to Wolfgangs's message:

Hello, dear Jeanette,

do you concrete know, in which districts /towns/ municipal districts your
ECKHARDT, HUBNER and TACKI were born?
I read, they came from Frankfurt. I think, this is Frankfurt on the Main and not the other Frankfurt, my birthtown on the Oder- river.Is this correct?

Frankfurt/ Main is a Hessen-town, I research mainly in or about Silesia, Saxonia, East and West Prussia, Thuringia  and Berlin/Brandenburg.

In any of this german federal states I often search in archives, but the district Frankfurt/Main - and more the Alsace Lorrain is so faraway from my Berlin!
 So - sorry- I can not really help you in your research. But if I read the names ECKHARDT, HUBNER and TACKI- a not so frequent name! - then I write you.
 
Surely it is a very good way to put in your questions in

< http:// forum.genealogy.net/forum>.
Maybe  it is a heavy work to find out your ancestors in Frankfurt, because the have many churches in Frankfurt/Main , and I don`t know: Have they a central names register?

Thank you for your nice words about my simple english with many, many errors, I will try to make this better!

Hello, Silberfischchen, for my feeling the running duck is better, a "silverfish" is also nice, for friends of the nature!, but not in the kitchen or in the bathroom.

Greetings to all

Wolfgang or frankowolf

Hello Wolfgang,

Regarding my German Research - Place Names, I am currently checking through all the details that I have on my Family.  I also have recently come across some relevant names and dates on ‘FamilySearch’, so I have been cross-checking.  I have been trying to compile as much information as possible, before posting Topics.  Making sure I know what I am trying to relate to people, so as not to confuse myself and everyone else.

On an Australian Death Certificate (d.1900), it gives the following:
'TACKE' - birth place:   Sassenburg, Westphalia, Prussia.
This is confirmed with birth/christening details from ‘FamilySearch’,
as 'TAKE' - Katholisch, Sassenberg, Westfalen, Preussen.
Christian Name / Dates / Parents - all relevant and correct.

Also on another Australian Death Certificate (d.1899), it gives the following:
'ECKHARDT' - birth place:   Frankfurt-on-the-Maine, Kreuznach, Germany.

Listed on Australian Death Certificate:
'HUBNER' - as first marriage, in Germany, (not sure where this person originates).
Do not think this person came to Australia.
Whereas the other two persons arrived in Australia, about 1860.

I am not sure where ‘Alsace Lorraine’ actually comes into the Family connections, it is a place that is known within the family.

I appreciate any assistance you may feel relevant to my research, should you happen to come across any in your travels.

I will continue to keep a look out for your ‘Heinrich PRIETSCH or PRITSCH’, and I also will let you know if I come across anything that may be relevant.

We wish you and your wife a wonderful holiday in the Baltic, as you made mention of on another Topic.  It has been great conversing with you.

I will begin posting Topics soon, in relation to my German Research.  Firstly, here on ‘RootsChat’, and also on the site,  ‘Ahnenforschung.org’ -  http://forum.genealogy.net/forum

All the Best,
Jeanette H.

[Rossi14]

Hello Jeanette,

On an Australian Death Certificate (d.1900), it gives the following:
'TACKE' - birth place:   Sassenburg, Westphalia, Prussia.
This is confirmed with birth/christening details from ‘FamilySearch’,
as 'TAKE' - Katholisch, Sassenberg, Westfalen, Preussen.
Christian Name / Dates / Parents - all relevant and correct.

There is a town called Sassenburg as well as two towns called Sassenberg in Germany, but only one of them is in Westfalen, so Sassenberg might be the right spelling.
Usually, civil records were introduced in Germany in 1870/71, with a few exceptions. Sassenberg is one of those, there, they have civil records since 1809. Assuming that your ancestor war born after that, you should be able to obtain these records at the Standesamt Sassenberg:
Standesamt Sassenberg
Schürenstraße 17
48336 Sassenberg
Postfach 1240
48331 Sassenberg

Phone: 02583/309-3060
Fax: 02583/309-8800

email: schulzezumloh(at)sassenberg.de
The catholic church records are held in the archive of the Bistum Münster.

Also on another Australian Death Certificate (d.1899), it gives the following:
'ECKARDT' - birth place:   Frankfurt-on-the-Maine, Kreuznach, Germany.

These are two different states, the Palatine and Hesse, although quite close together. Frankfurt is a city, Bad Kreuznach a town. If you only know the surname, you might be lost in Frankfurt, but might have quite a good chance in Kreuznach.

Listed on Australian Death Certificate:
'HUBNER' - as first marriage, in Germany, (not sure where this person originates).
Do not think this person came to Australia.
Whereas the other two persons arrived in Australia, about 1860.

You may try to post that surname (Hubner) on one of the German message boards, but without having any additional information (state/town etc.), I'd say your chances are rather slim to find him. Hubner might derive from Huber - a very frequent name - or Huebner, also a frequent name.

Rossi

[Jeanette H]

Hello Rossi14,

Thank you for your detailed geographical outline of the possible areas I will be researching in, this has been most helpful.  I am still checking out and reading about these areas, so as to get a better understanding of the layout of the country.

In my original posting I did not post all details of full names etc.   This I will do, when I have checked through the information I currently have. 

Thanking you for your help.

Jeanette H.

 

[frankowolf]

Hello, Jeanette,
at the beginning of this letter at first a little story:
In the last weeks i have researched for a member of this forum named redmr2red (Carol): "Help finding Louisa Kipp".
So a have called the "Evangilisch-Lutherisches Pfarramt(parish office) in a little town in our Harz-mountains.
The very friendly secretary- woman has researcht for the surname "Kipp" not only in the birth/baptism-register, that also in the original baptism- church books!
Without payment! I have send to this very helpful lady a nice letter with "Thank you" and with a poem from my own hand.
And now I think, maybe possible, that the Evangelisch- Lutherisches Pfarramt in Bad Kreuznach also will be so friendly and have a look of the baptism- register 1820...1840 for the surname ECKARDT.

In Bad Kreuznach threre are two Churches:

St. Paulus, pastor (woman!) Susanne Gillmann, email: <gillmann[--at--]ev-pauluskirche.de>

St. Johannes, pastor (also woman) Ute Weiser, email:<pfrn.weiser[--at--]gmx.de>

I also can write a letter to the church office, but it is a very better way to write from Australia!
Bye for now   Wolfgang in the very cloudy Berlin    


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[frankowolf]

Hello, Jeanette,

yesterday I had forgotten to write you: I think you can write your request to the pastors in Bad Kreuznach without a problem in english: I am sure, they can read this very easy!

Normally you and everybody must pay for a research in a church book, because this is time consuming, and a people in the office (often a old pensioner)  obtains a job for searching in the books.

But I think, anybody in the office maybe friently and have a look in the register.
If there is not a register, then it ist too mutch work for the office.

heartly  Wolfgang

[Jeanette H]

Hello Wolfgang,

I must apologize for the delay in answering your most recent replies to this Topic, so many things have been happening lately.  Hopefully over the Christmas / New Year holiday break, things will slow down and I can get back into my research again.

Thank you for these two contact addresses.  I will contact the pastors in Bad Kreuznach, and let you know how I get on.

When I get around to it, I will post some details of these people, so as to give an idea of who they were and where they came from.

Hope you both had an enjoyable holiday.
Thanking You,

Jeanette H.