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Death/burial of William FELLS of Babworth, disappears after 1861 Census
« on: Thursday 01 November 07 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Everyone,
Have just been contacted on GenesReunited by someone who has provided new information on my gt-gt-gt-grandfather William FELLS who was born in 1795/6 in Elkesley - namely that he re-married in Babworth in 1859.
I am reviving my hunt for more details of what happened to him after the 1861 Census with his new wife Jane (nee RILEY) in Babworth.  I cannot for the life of me find either a death entry or a burial entry.  His first wife Mary died in 1855 and could well be buried in Babworth, where the family lived in both 1841 and 1851 Censuses, though I'm advised by my new contact that Clarborough or Retford might be a final resting place.
If anyone has come across his death, or has indeed stumbled across a FELLS grave with his name on it in the near locality, I would be very interested to hear about where his final resting place might be...
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keith

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Re: Death/burial of William FELLS of Babworth, disappears after 1861 Census
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 November 07 12:15 GMT (UK) »
 these are all the fells from east retford + a few from worksop who died between 1775 and 1871

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will keep looking. Very strange that there are no records of a william fells dieing that match with his birth year or any where near in the whole of england, not just nottinghamshire. Could his name have been misspelt?
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 November 07 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Diane,
My goodness me! And welcome to Rootschat...
You've been most industrious on my behalf here, even though William FELLS continues to be elusive.  But I'm sure some of those FELLS entries will be useful in putting together as many pieces of the FELLS family jigsaw as possible.
Very many thanks, you're a star...
keith

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Re: Death/burial of William FELLS of Babworth, disappears after 1861 Census
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 November 07 14:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
its kinda bugging me aswell because jane riley/fells is abit of a mystery also. Cant find a father/mother or marriage cert for 1st marriage, not even sure there was one!
On her marriage cert to william fells it states her fathers name as thomas seaman but the writing is very unclear so am not sure. There dosent seem to be a thomas seaman so am abit stumped.


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Re: Death/burial of William FELLS of Babworth, disappears after 1861 Census
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 November 07 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Diane,
You seem to have done quite a lot of research in this area with this particular family.  Is FELLS or RILEY one of the families you are personally researching?  PM me if you'd prefer...
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Re: Death/burial of William FELLS of Babworth, disappears after 1861 Census
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 November 07 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Hello Keith & Diane.... :)

Funny how things happen; I hadn’t been able to access Rootschat first thing this morning but before I went out I did notice your posts and as I was hoping to check out some marriage details at Clarborough as well as other searches, I thought I would keep a look out for your William Fells burial.
In the fiche index for the parish of Clarborough, it says; Clarborough “for burials, 3rd Feb 1865 – 12th Dec 1875; see Retford, St Saviour”.

Burials - East Retford, St Saviour.
WILLIAM FELL, abode – George Tan Yard? March 20th 1870, age 75 yrs, by Jas. W. K. Disney at St Saviours.

Burials - East Retford, St Saviour.
JANE FELLS, abode – Union, June 13th 1884, age 77 yrs, by L.D. Raworth, vicar.


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« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 November 07 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Sheila,
That's incredible!  What a stroke of luck for both myself and Diane.  There's even an address at the time of their deaths - would "Union" perhaps mean the Workhouse, or have I got that completely wrong.
Thank you so much for bringing these two magically out of the hat...
Very best wishes,
Keith
N.B.  I must get up to St Saviour's some time in the future and stand by the grave(s) if they're still there/legible.  Maybe if Diane lives in the area she could go and have a look.  Perhaps he and his second wife lie in the same grave, though in another example in my family an ancestor lies in the same grave as her first husband even though he pre-deceased her by 29 years.  I suppose a will would direct the deceased's wishes...

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Re: Death/burial of William FELLS of Babworth, disappears after 1861 Census
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 November 07 17:33 GMT (UK) »
hi,
in 1881 jane fells/riley was living with edward riley and his family on east street, east retford but not sure where she was when she died. There were rileys from this family in the workhouse in 1901 though. william fells wasnt poverty stricken i dont think, he had listed living with him several servants over the years.
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 November 07 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Sheila,
William FELLS graduated from plain old ag lab to Farm Bailiff, so it would seem that he was doing quite well.  What might have happened to his second wife Jane after he died I suppose could be open to speculation.  Something definitely worth looking into - I've just read a fascinating book about the Workhouse by Simon Fowler through The National Archives, published this year, and it was quite extraordinary - and in many cases tragic - how family fortunes could fluctuate for all sorts of reasons...
One thing I'm curious about - could "George Tan Yard" possibly refer to perhaps a pub or inn called the George, with a tan yard adjoining, or in its grounds, as I've seen occasionally.  Do you have quite a bit of local knowledge that might help with this?
keith