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« Reply #189 on: Friday 02 November 07 10:23 GMT (UK) »


Roberts son Thomas (same age as this one) says he was b. Exeter what do you think as this Thomas was also living in the same site as Robert & brother James
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« Reply #190 on: Friday 02 November 07 10:25 GMT (UK) »


son of Robert again! so my geuss is Thomas is also the son of Robert although p.o.b is incorrect or is it perhaps it was incorrect on an earlier census!

so living at Hod Hill Lane in 1881 we have Robert with hs wife and two daughters and on the same site but in separate caravans we have Robert sons Thomas James and Henry great!

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« Reply #191 on: Friday 02 November 07 10:49 GMT (UK) »
lets see if we can follow this new summary  :-\ oh er

John Penfold m. Charlotte Unknown (possibly Brooks)
children:
John b. 1809 m. Harriet James
Robert b.1816 m. Amelia Page
Maria b. 1831 m ... Thomson
(missing children)

John Pinfold (sic) 1809 warminster m.  Harriett James  b.1814 Warminster, 02 Aug 1831 Pimperne Dorset (source IGI batch M159791)
Children:~
Robert b.1832 m. Fiamce Smith Sarah Harriet (do i have this right?)
John b. 1834 m. married Charlotte
William b, 1836 m. Diane Sophie Hewson
Thomas - b.1841 m. Sophia/Soffia Orchard
Charlotte b. 1838 m. Henry Geuss/Gess 1858
Elizabeth (Betsy) b. 1845/6 m. Edwin Orchard b. 1844 Ledbury m on 15 April 1871
Alfredb.1849 m. Lousia small (b.1851) m. 15 April 1871
Henry b.1851/52 Bridgwater m. Ocean HUghes (b 1851 Honiton)
Edward b.1853 m. Rachel Holland


Robert b. 1816 Bremer Wilts m. Amelia Page (source IGI) 26 dec 1836 Bishops Waltham, Hampshire
children:
Robert M 1838 born Southhampton
(missing children)                 
Thomas 1849 born Exeter                               "
James 1850 born Bridgewater
Ollof 1853 born Withridge
Henry 1855 born Yeovil
Elizabeth 1859 born Dorchester
Pricilla 6 monthes      on the census on 1861 so makes her b. late 1860 , yes?

1881 census for Robert
RG11 2086 159 22
Hod Hill Lane Shilling Okeford Sturminster
Robert Penfold 65 b. Bremer Wilthsire brushmaker (making him b. 1816)
Amelia 65 wife b. Canterbury brushmaker
Elizabeth 21 dau. b. Burton Dorset brushmaker
Priscillia 18 dau. b. Ibberton Dorset brushmaker

Maria bapt. 3 jul 1831, Brockenhurst, Hampshire (batch 1013764) m. ...... Thompson (source 1861 census)
1861 living with brother Robert
Maria Thompson age 29  born Brockners, Hampshire sister and hawker
Henry 6 born Prath nephew (of Robert)

Thomas b. 1841 m. Sophia / Soffia Orchard b. circa 1846 in Q2 1866 South Molton Devon 5b 833 (source BMD)
children:~
William circa 1871
Defiance 1872c.
John 1874c.
Christoanna 1875c.
Christopher 1877c.
Edward 1879c.
Soffia 1881c.
Nelson 1883c.
Elizabeth 1885c.
Harriet 1887c.
Missia 1890c.
Selina 1891c. bapt. 22.Feb 1891 Par Cornwall (under Pinfold, source IGI)
(source 1891 census)


Charlotte 1838 m. Henry Gess in 1891 were in Battersea with children Mary age 16 b. Helston, Rebecca 14 b. Plymouth & Alfred 9 b. Helston

Henry b. 1851 m. Ocean Hughes had a lot of children Betsy, Defiance, Orfius John Noah Vashti Albert Leonard (leonard m. another Sophia Orchard) sophie william & caroline


1881 census for  Thomas PENFOLD   Head   M   Male   30   Weymouth,  Brushmaker     
 Patience Wife   M   Female   28   Shoreham,   Brushmaker     
 Patience   Daur      Female   9   Weymouth,   Brushmaker     
 Robert P Son      Male   5   Moreden,         
 Elizabeth  Daur      Female   6 m   Farnham,         
  Hod Hill Lane
  Shilling Okeford, Dorset, England
  RG11 2086  160  23

1881 census for James PENFOLD   Head   M   Male   27   BridgwaterBrushmaker     
Priscilla Wife   M   Female   24   Portsmouth,   Brushmaker     
Priscilla  Daur      Female   6   Chard,     
John Son    Male   5   Cerne,     
Patience  Daur      Female   3   Weymouth,   
 Hod Hill Lane
 Shilling Okeford, Dorset, England
  RG11 2086 160  23
 
i know where to go to get a new brush! continued........
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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #192 on: Friday 02 November 07 10:57 GMT (UK) »



Toni ............ you're brilliant.


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« Reply #193 on: Friday 02 November 07 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Robert b. 1816 Bremer Wilts m. Amelia Page (source IGI) 26 dec 1836 Bishops Waltham, Hampshire
children:
Robert M 1838 born Southhampton
(missing children)                
Thomas 1849 born Exeter                               "
James 1850 born Bridgewater
Ollof 1853 born Withridge
Henry 1855 born Yeovil
Elizabeth 1859 born Dorchester
Pricilla 6 monthes      on the census on 1861 so makes her b. late 1860 , yes?

1881 census for Henry  
Henry PENFOLD   Head   M   Male   23   Yeovil,  Brushmaker    
 Charlotte  Wife   M   Female   22   Portsmouth, Brushmaker    
 Henry Son      Male   6   Gosport,        
 William  Son      Male   5   Weymouth,  None    
 Charlotte  Daur      Female   3   Bridport,    
 Amelia   Daur      Female   4 m   Southampton,      
Hod Hill Lane
 Shilling Okeford, Dorset, England
   RG11   2086 / 159   22

Thomas
b. 1841 m. Sophia / Soffia Orchard b. circa 1846 in Q2 1866 South Molton Devon 5b 833 (source BMD)
children:~
William circa 1871 m. Bessie Small
Defiance 1872c.
John 1874c.
Christoanna 1875c.
Christopher 1877c.
Edward 1879c.
Soffia 1881c.
Nelson 1883c.
Elizabeth 1885c.
Harriet 1887c.
Missia 1890c.
Selina 1891c. bapt. 22.Feb 1891 Par Cornwall (under Pinfold, source IGI)
(source 1891 census)

William b. 1871 m. Bessie Small - Debs please fill in details re children. etc.

beginning colour cycle again

John 1874c. m. Ellen Small
children:~
Mark, Eliza John Vashtie Missellie Genty Edward Priscilla Harriet Sophie Helen
(for some reason i do not have d/p.ob???)

Christiana 1875c. Cornwall Grampound m. William Orchard s/o John Orchard & Sarah Q1 1898 St Austell (source BMD)
children:~
Edmund 1900c Calstock
Joseph 1901c Mary Tavy

 Christopher 1877 m. Carnation Richards 14 Nov 1903 , child : Edward/Eddy he was 3 when his mum died.
Carnation Richards d/o Justinyen/Justinian Richards, she died age 23 , 17 jan 1906 , of acute TB
Christopher Penfold then married for a 2nd time ...to Mariah/Maria BOSWELL

Edward 1879c m. Florence Mabel Whitcombe from Meare in 1913 Florence d. 1917 and Edward remarried Elizabeth Whitcombe

Nelson b.1883 m. 1904 to Lavinia Richards or Hannah Rush (need to cert to confirm who but there are briths for Penfold/Richards children 1911-1920 but none for Penfold/Rush)

Elizabeth   b c 1885 = William Orchard 1908, Stratton Cornwall

Harriett   1887 m. William Small  1915 Plymouth (source Romanygenes) sorry ishe could have been this marriage  :-\Harriett Penfold      Henry Buckland 1896 Plympton/ Devon (Father Tenant Buckland )

Selina Penfold 1891   Joshua Buckland 1887 Totnes Devon ( father was Plato Buckland ) (Source Romanygenes)

Genty Penfold m. John Albert James s/o Vashtie James
children:
John William Vashtie Jenty Liberty

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so we need info. on these penfolds:~
deaths for all of them!
children of Robert b.1832
do. John 1834 & also his wifes Charlotte maiden name
do. William b.1836
do. Elizabeth (Betsey) 1845/6
do. Alfred b.1849
do. Edward b.1853
Marr. & Death  children of Robert b. 1838
do. Ollof b. 1853
do. Henry 1855
do. Elizabeth 1859
do. Priscilla 1860
do. Defiance 1872
do. Soffia 1881
do. Missia / Missellie 1890



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« Reply #194 on: Friday 02 November 07 11:19 GMT (UK) »

and we have these marriages not all accounted for:~     

Christina Penfold      William Orchard     1898 St Austell
Edward                      Mary Ann                    1899 Tavistock
Eliza                           Henry Bundle            1879 Truro
Eliza                           Wiiliam Orchard       1908 Stratton
Fiance                       Andrew Richards     1915 Truro
John                           Maria Crocker          1882 St Austell
John                           Caroline Orchard    1906 Bodmin
Alfred                        Louisa Small             1871 Plymouth
Charlotte                  Henry Gess               1855 Plymouth
Christopher             Patience Guest         1864 Plymouth
Christopher             Maria Boswell           1910 Plymouth
Christopher             Sally Hughes            1915 Torrington Devon
Elizabeth                 Edwin Orchard          1871 Plymouth
Elizabeth                 Gough Smith              1890 Barnstaple
Harriett                    William Small            1915 Plymouth
Leonard                   Sophia Orchard        1912 Exeter
Mary Ann                 Fred Smith                  1881 Chard
Pricilla                      William Orchard       1874 St Thomas Devon
Rachel                     Robert Small             1905 Devonport       
Thomas                  Sophia Orchard         1866 South Molton Devon
William                   Patience Orchard       1912 Exeter
Faithful                   James orchard           1914 Dorchester
Harriett Penfold      Henry Buckland 1896 Plympton/ Devon (Father Tenant Buckland )
Selina Penfold    Joshua Buckland 1887 Totnes Devon ( father was Plato Buckland )
William Penfold    Jenty Buckland  1887 Plymouth  ( Father Plato Buckland)
James Penfold    Sophy  Buckland 1887 Plymouth( Father Plato Buckland)


can anyone match them up to the correct Penfolds????

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Edward Penfold =Mary Ann Orchard is s/o Thomas Penfold and Sophia Orchard ...he is the brother to my William penfold =Bessie Palmer.
Christopher Penfold (witness) =Carnation Richards and Maria Boswell ...he is also S/o Thomas and Sophia
Eliza Penfold (witness) = William Orchard ...she is d/o Thomas Penfold and Sophia Orchard


better do some housework now be bk later!

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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #195 on: Friday 02 November 07 11:19 GMT (UK) »
wooohooooo Toni ...Thank you sooo much ... ;D

changes:  :-\


John Pinfold (sic) 1809 warminster m. Harriett James b.1814 Warminster, 02 Aug 1831 Pimperne Dorset (source IGI batch M159791)
Children:~
Robert b.1832 m. Fiamce Smith Sarah Harriet (do i have this right?)


Robert Married Fiance Smith
Sarah Harriet ...is another daughter....
supposedly she was baptised 3 nov 1833 in St Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex inder the name Pennifold  :-\

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #196 on: Friday 02 November 07 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Toni ....i can't keep up LOL ...you are great ....  :-*
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #197 on: Friday 02 November 07 11:21 GMT (UK) »



Toni ......... yer a marvel gel ...........fantastic.          ;D ;D ;D


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