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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #99 on: Thursday 01 November 07 06:13 GMT (UK) »
The summary is definitley helping me.

Could this be the marriage of Edward Penfold c 1879?

Edward PENFOLD aged 21 bachelor licensed hawker father Thomas also a licensed hawker
married in Calstock Cornwall after banns on 18-Jul 1899
Mary Ann ORCHARD aged 19 spinster father Henry licensed hawker

Witnesses were Christopher Penfold & Eliza Penfold They signed with a mark.

.......dee

Oh ....tis so hard to remember what has happened to them all.....I just read back and I see you already have Edward's marriages......so who is this Edward with father Thomas and witnesses Christopher and Eliza?  :o  ::)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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« Reply #100 on: Thursday 01 November 07 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone ....

Thank goodness Halloween is over ... now I can play again :)

Dee ...Edward Penfold =Mary Ann Orchard is s/o Thomas Penfold and Sophia Orchard ...he is the brother to my William penfold =Bessie Palmer.

Christopher Penfold (witness) =Carnation Richards and Maria Boswell ...he is also S/o Thomas and Sophia

Eliza Penfold (witness) = William Orchard ...she is d/o Thomas Penfold and Sophia Orchard.

 Blimey .... lol

deb ;D
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #101 on: Thursday 01 November 07 12:11 GMT (UK) »
 ;D

Re : The PENFOLD WINE

If anyone can find a link between me and them ...I would be eternally grateful  :o :o :o :D

deb ...keeping fingers crossed  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #102 on: Thursday 01 November 07 12:17 GMT (UK) »


so info. on the following children of Thomas & Soffia is required
Defiance
Christopher
Soffia
Elizabeth
Harriet
Selina
Missia



that webiste Hepburn found is a goldmine  :D

The summary is definitley helping me.

Could this be the marriage of Edward Penfold c 1879?

Edward PENFOLD aged 21 bachelor licensed hawker father Thomas also a licensed hawker
married in Calstock Cornwall after banns on 18-Jul 1899
Mary Ann ORCHARD aged 19 spinster father Henry licensed hawker

Witnesses were Christopher Penfold & Eliza Penfold They signed with a mark.

.......dee

Oh ....tis so hard to remember what has happened to them all.....I just read back and I see you already have Edward's marriages......so who is this Edward with father Thomas and witnesses Christopher and Eliza?  :o  ::)

perhaps Christopher had 2 wives 1 in each County a bit like  a sailor with a girl in each port he he he  ;D  ;D  ;D

no seriously perhaps he did have two wives.


i think pretty much now that we have found the marriages and children at least of John Pinfold and some of his grandchildren / gt grandchildren, we are pretty much geting near the dreaded 1920's whwere info. is hard to find and you risk encrocahing (is that the right word?) on living people and i think we should now concentrate on working back with JOhn Pinfold - where did he come from who are his parents. etc etc

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #103 on: Thursday 01 November 07 12:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Toni

yes Hepburns find is GREAT !!!!!!!!!

re: Christopher Penfold ...I am in touch with his grandchild .... He def. married Carnation Richards in 1903, she had Eddy, she died 1906 of TB aged 23  :'(
He then married Maria Boswell c 1911 ...they had no children .

re; John Pinfold ...I have scribbles about him ...supposedly he was the s/o John Pinfold and Charlotte... I have no proof.

John Pinfold (b  c 1809) had a brother ...Robert who married an Amelia ....
I will find the details ...maybe we can figure it out working from the 2 brothers ... ? :-\

deb

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #104 on: Thursday 01 November 07 12:57 GMT (UK) »
here is Robert Penfold (b/o john Pinfold b 1809) in 1861:

Listed in Persons not in houses

Robert Penfold 45 born Wiltshire brush & mat hawker
Amelia 43                            "              "                 "
Robert M 23 born Southhampton                "
Thomas 12 born Exeter                               "
James 11 born Bridgewater
Ollof 8 born Withridge
Henry 6 born Yeovil
Elizabeth 2 born Dorchester
Pricilla 6 monthes      "
Maria Thompson 29 born Brockners, Hampshire sister and hawker
Henry 6 born Prath nephew

living Uplyme, Exeter, Devon

RG9/1370
104
22

I wonder if Maria Thompson is the sister of Robert ..ie: anothersibling of my John and Robert or is she is the sister of Amelia the wife.? I am hoping she is a Penfold ..... I think that they were all so close that they may have refered to in-laws as siblings/family members .!
deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #105 on: Thursday 01 November 07 13:10 GMT (UK) »
okay ...

IGI extracted
Robert Penfold =Amelia Page
26 dec 1836
Bishops Waltham, Hampshire

now to find Maria Thompson ...hopefully , nee Penfold ....

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #106 on: Thursday 01 November 07 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Two marriages here with the women getting a bit long in the tooth...if it's our two???
Sophia Penfold to a Manley in 1919 Okehampton!!
Fiance Penfold to a Richards in Truro "Bah" I havn't written the date down....
Another thought on Missia,there is a birth for a Missella in 1903 do you think that's the proper way of saying it,because I can't find a Missia anywhere..
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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #107 on: Thursday 01 November 07 13:20 GMT (UK) »
so John was b. 1809 Warminster & Robert b. 1816 Wiltshire

i would hazard a geuss that there were children in between!

i looked on IGI there a few John Penfolds/Pinfolds b. 1809 (4)but not Warminster, i'm geussing the p.ob. was taken from the census. or do you have his christening details. was he even christened???
what we need is someone on here with access to the Warminster bapt. & marriages and even deaths pre 1837

i think this is Robert in 1881:~

RG11 2086 159 22
Hod Hill Lane Shilling Okeford Sturminster
Robert Penfold 65 b. Bremer Wilthsire brushmaker (making him b. 1816)
Amelia 65 wife b. Canterbury brushmaker
Elizabeth 21 dau. b. Burton Dorset brushmaker
Priscillia 18 dau. b. Ibberton Dorset brushmaker

one good thing with your travellers you can see where they lived almost every year by the births of their children!






Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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