my gran

[Necromancer]

....but it poses the question whos her mum and why is he on the wed cert if hes unmarried

You canot rely on 'condition' as to marriage (or in fact not much at all really   ) as given on a census entry ....

Given all the facts, I'd say she's registered under another name and if her DoB can be relied on, also on the Census under another surname ....

[ike]

newf were did you find edward d atwell 51 widower he sounds promising i know he was dead in 1929 it says so on her 2 wed cer

[toni*]

Female Attwell Q1 1877 Windsor 2c 448

I think this is her birth

maybe she didn't have a name but they had to register her within the 42 days 6 wk limit to avoid a financial penalty.

[Necromancer]

My view on this Edward chap is that a middle name of Douglas in conjunction with the At[t]well is virtually unique ....

But as to what his real relationship was to your lass, who knows, I've seen more 'fabricated' fathers on Marriage certs than ....... 

Again the Marriage Cert - is it the original, as signed by all parties, or a modern copy (which is in fact a copy of the Register entry, and hence has no original signatures ... )

He is at the 1891 census refn I gave, albeit transcribed Alwell ....

[Necromancer]

so, Toni, what Attwells are on the 1881 census with a link to the Windsor area ?

[ike]

i sent for a copy of her wed cert oct. 2006 the writing is bad on it.
why is nothing simple. will order the female cert today and see what comes of it

[toni*]

so, Toni, what Attwells are on the 1881 census with a link to the Windsor area ?

i think we exhausted all other possibilitys of her birth before.

[ike]

thanks for all your help and ideas have a couple of new ones to play with know
regards
fran

[toni*]

actaully i would ask the register office first if they could tell you either yes / no if the father was Edward before spending your money.

Newf said to check the 1881 census , which i hadn't done before ( as looking for a birth) having done so now i find :~

Elizabeth Attwell , scholar, age 4 so b. abt 1877 Windsor resident in the workhouse (which is where she was born.) also residents of the workhouse were Elizabeth age 24, a female servant  and Alice (how old was ALice?)

RG11 1325 107 3

perhaps the Female Attwell birth  was Elizabeth.