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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 18 November 12 19:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
   I have just found this thread about Warley Place. My gr.grandfather, Frederick Kent (born Cranham) lived all his married life in Great Warley, and in the censuses for 1891, 01 and 11, he is either a garden labourer or a gardener. It seems quite possible that he worked at Warley Place. There was mention of a research group in previous posts - is it possible to make contact with them?
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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 31 July 22 15:52 BST (UK) »
I’ve just recently came across this old thread and wondered if anyone is still researching Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, in particular her connection with Countess Helen Tasker and other members of the Tasker family.  I’m trying to unravel various links to a numbers of Tasker individuals who I suspect are related.  The Taskers may have been a prominent Roman Catholic family in or close to York.

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Chris
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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 31 July 22 19:30 BST (UK) »
  It may not help with your particular searches, but there is a new biography of Miss Willmott. I have it on reserve at the library!
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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #21 on: Monday 01 August 22 07:48 BST (UK) »
chris....I've researched Ellen Willmot as her gardens are only 10 minutes away from me by car.  its a very special place and I've written an article about it.  i have lots of family trees etc including the Countess Tasker who was her aunt.  send me your email address ans I'll send you what I can.  diana
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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #22 on: Monday 01 August 22 08:17 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for these recent replies…..much appreciated.

Diana, I’ll send you a separate message with my email address.  I’m interested by your comment that Countess Helen was Ellen’s aunt.  I suspected she was a cousin of some degree.

Regards,
Chris
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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #23 on: Monday 01 August 22 10:31 BST (UK) »
Wondering if the "connection" began here - Countess Tasker's will refers to "cousin" and Ellen Ann Willmott (the horticulturist) as "godchild"?
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James Fell, bachelor married Ellen Tasker, spinster, 5 Sep 1825, Aylesbury, by licence, witnesses Joseph and Mary Raw

James Fell buried 19 Mar 1829, Aylesbury, St Mary, aged 47

Thomas Fell, widowed, married Ellen Fell, widowed, 31 Dec 1829, Aylesbury, witnesses Mary Fell and Silv Seymour

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #24 on: Monday 01 August 22 14:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I had noticed Ellen Willmott's maternal grandmother was Ellen Tasker and that set me wondering about the relationship between the Willmott family and Countess Helen Tasker.

I've seen somewhere, unsubstantiated, that Ellen Tasker was born 1807 in Aylesbury, daughter of Charles & Mary Tasker.

Other connections include the following......

If you look at Countess Helen's 1861 census return she is shown as head of household, living at Kendal Villa, High Road, Hammersmith with an elderly cousin Hannah Tasker born 1772 in Knapton, Yorkshire.  Hannah died two years later at Kendal Villa and probate was granted to a James Lancelot Foster of Ogleforth, Yorkshire, her nephew.

James Lancelot Foster was born 1809 in York, son of Robert Foster, a tea merchant, and his wife Mary Tasker (1772-1810).  According to his 1871 census return James Lancelot Foster was the current Sheriif of York and proprietor/editor of the Yorkshire Gazette. He remained as the publisher of the Yorkshire gazette from 1852 until December 1882 and he died 1883 in Ogleforth.

It's also worth looking at this link.....

https://taking-stock.org.uk/building/warley-holy-cross-and-all-saints/

The architect for the new church was Francis William Tasker, cousin of Countess Helen who helped finance the building.

Francis Tasker was born 1848 in Croydon, son of Charles & Sarah Tasker.  He has a brief biography here:

http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/architect_full.php?id=201860

He died in 1883 and was living at Maryon Hall, Frognal Lane, Hampstead at the time of his death.

According to this article....

https://lesseminentvictorians.com/blog/

Francis William was the grandson of the prolific architect John Tasker (1738-1816).  I think this may be in error and he was the great-grandson.

A bit more information about John Tasker here.....

https://www.parksandgardens.org/people/john-tasker

Tasker did a lot of work for Thomas Weld of Lulworth castle.  Interestingly John Tasker drew up architectural plans for the main house at Spetchley Park which was built by Robert Berkeley in 1811.  Ellen Willmott's younger sister Rosa was later to marry Robert Berkeley's great-grandson, Robert Valentine Berkeley and Ellen herself helped remodelled the park and gardens at Spetchley.

I've looked briefly at John Tasker's will which looks very comprehensive. The main recipients of his estate seem to be his two sons John and Joseph Tasker, the latter presumably the father of Countess Helen Tasker.  Joseph Tasker was a wealthy man, leaving around £500,000 on his death in 1861.  He was a director of the United Mexican Mining Association which may have been the source of his wealth.

Hopefully John Tasker's will will reveal his connections with Hannah, Mary and Ellen Tasker that I've mentioned above.

Regards,
Chris
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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #25 on: Monday 01 August 22 18:14 BST (UK) »
Had also wondered about this "connection" -
1861 Census  RG09  3503  64  12

"Countess" Tasker's will widely reported - have you checked it out?

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Re: Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex
« Reply #26 on: Monday 01 August 22 19:19 BST (UK) »
Marriage -
Frederick Willmott, Jun Qtr 1856, Kensington, 1a 223 - on the same page Ellen Fell

Birth
Ellen Ann Willmott, Sep Qtr 1858, Brentford, 3a 37 - mother's maiden name Fell

Wiki (ok!) has "Ellen Willmott, born 19 Aug 1858 - parents Frederick Willmott, a solicitor and Ellen (nee Fell). Through her mother she was related to the Tasker Family."