Ellen Willmott of Warley Place, Gt Warley, Essex

[essexbird2004]

Lol

well best go on a Monday then Diana as that's their late opening day, i believe they are open until 8pm.

I know what you mean, the time flies when you get in there, i manage to go about twice a year, wish it was more. And i only live 25 mins down the road. I just find it easier to buy the parish records on fiche and look them up at home, when all the kids have gone to bed.

Good luck with your search mate. It sounds  very interesting (you going to write a book?)

Kath x

[DCS]

Thanks for the tip - I will go on a Monday then.  Might be a quieter day in any case. 

Yes, I write articles and I have already written one article and plan to write a couple more.  I have stacks of information on her but through this research I am now invovled in helping people with their ancestry!  Just so fascinating.  I discovered some gorgeous buildings last week in Brentwood that I never knew existed - and I don't live that far away from there!  How the gentry lived in those days.  Unbelieveable!

Where do you buy the microfiches from?  What cost are they and how do you read them?

Diana

[essexbird2004]

I live just outside Thurrock, so Brentwood, Chelmsford, Romford all quite near especially living right on top of A13.

I am too fascinated with peoples family history and do help quite a few people when i can. I also love old buildings and ruins.

You can order the microfiche from the records office. It's about £2.20 per fiche, which i do not think is to expensive. You can pay by cheque,in person or by credit/debit card over the phone. they will also post it out to you recorded delivery which costs about £1.50 (i think it's less than that)

All the parishes have an ERO reference

say like Great Waltham, Essex St Mary & St Lawrence Church would be D/P 121
if i wanted the register of baptisms 1703-1782 it would be D/P 121/1/1 it contains 5 fiche so would cost £11.00

When you go on the seax website login as guest and on the right hand side you will see 'quick find registers' click this it's self explanatory from there.

As for being able to read them you need a fiche reader, i bought mine off of ebay it cost me £50 and it's about 40 years old, so not cheap. If your lucky your local library may have a reader there and you can use that for free. Unfortunately mine does not, so i bought one.

Kath x 

[essexbird2004]

oh forgot to add  that it can take up to 6 weeks to get them so it's not quick. but i do not know what entails in copying fiche.

[Markkent91]

Hello  members,

Does anyone have information about the gardeners who worked at Warley Place?

 The reason I ask is I am researching my great great Uncle sgt Edward Charles Kent who was killed in March 1918 in the Great War. According to the 1911 census, at this time he was a Improver and a nurseryman in Peterborough.

I have recently discovered with the help of other forum members Warley Place in Essex.

My uncle was born in Lee, Kent where he spent much of his life.

According to records, he  enlisted in Warley, Essex (date unknown but probably 1916 onwards) so that makes me believe around this time he was a nurseryman and enlisted in Warley, he could of well been someone who worked on the Warley estate.

Of course this may not be true but I feel it is worth a try.

So does anyone know where I could view records  of the workers at Warley Place? The SEAX?


Kind regards,

Mark.

[findem]

Hi Diana,

If you buy a fiche reader try for one with at least two lenses, the one I have only has one, the other is missing and I've found on a couple of occasions it would have helped to be able to enlarge further some of the entries, still I can't complain it only cost $20 (about 12 pounds) off Ebay.

Hi Kath.

Regards

[keldon]

Mark,

In reply to your question (a separate post would have been better), there may be no connection with Warley Place. Warley was the location of a large military barracks. See this google search. Perhaps he travelled there to enlist.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=warley+barracks&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

[DCS]

Hi Mark,

I am in touch with the voluntary working party at Warley Place.  A couple of them have researched the history of this place and Ellen Willmott and I know that they have found out about some of the nurserymen there.  There were over a hundred gardeners there at one time in Ellen's heyday and I don't know if there is a list of them all, but I could ask them if they know of one. 

Regarding your great great uncle enlisting at Warley, one of my ancestors enlisted at Warley and he lived in West Ham which at that time was quite a long way away from Warley.  Apparently due to high numbers of deaths in one particular village or town it became usual practice to send locals to enlist at various other regiments all across the country.  However, your gt gt uncle may well have worked in Warley at the time before enlisting.  I got all details about my ancestor's service life from - well the name escapes me at the moment - but I can find it in my records if you haven't already contacted them about your gt gt uncle.

Have you looked up his certificate in the War Graves?  He was with the 18th Battalion then.

Best wishes

Diana

[Markkent91]

Dear Diana,

Thankyou for the swift reply. Yes please do ask if they know.  Would there have been a  memorial at Warley Place to the men  that were killed?

 Yes he was the 18th Battalion Middlesex Regiment who were a Public works Pioneers battalion who's primary job, I understand, were to constuct communication trenches, roads etc Perhaps this might relate to his duties at Warley Place (if he was there)...

I have been researching for over a year now and so know quite a fair amount about his life and military service. Ancestry, National Archives and the internet have all proven useful.

He may not have been involed at Warley Place at all,  but whenever I get a new lead, it's always good to follow it up.

Nonetheless, the history of Warley Place seems  very interesting.

Kind regards,

Mark.