St Francis Friary, Cumberland St Glasgow

[daval57]

I hope Tony doesn't mind us taking over his post!
He'll get a shock  when he opens his emails next

He's certainly sparked my interest.  It's only about 4 miles from where I live now.

Just found this wee article from one of the local papers just last year.
http://tinyurl.com/2ohmau

[liverpool annie]

Found this .... I had read about it

The Franciscans arrived in Glasgow in the early 14th century and built their first chapel in the George Street area of the city. A Franciscan presence remained on the High Street near the University until around 1559 when the forces of the Reformation led to their suppression.

Despite attempts to carry on their good work in dangerous conditions the Franciscans did not re-establish themselves in the city until 1868 when they established a small mission in Calton.
 
In the same year the mission purchased a piece of land in Cumberland Street, Gorbals. The succeeding years saw the parish of Gorbals prosper and grow till soon a larger chapel was needed. The first turf was turned on the 2nd February 1880, closely followed by a ceremony on 25th May to lay the foundation stone. Although the original design by the famous architect Peter Paul Pugin had been altered the formal opening of the magnificent St Francis church took place on the 1st June 1881.

During an archaeological excavation at the site of the new City Science Centre on High Street, the remains of twenty followers, or benefactors, of St Francis were discovered on the site of the aforementioned monastery. After a deeply moving service by Archbishop Conti at St. Andrew’s Cathedral on 18th March 2005 the historic remains of St Francis’ faithful medieval followers were taken on the short journey to the Southern Necropolis where they were respectfully laid to rest at a graveside committal given by the Rev. Patrick Lonsdale, OFM, Guardian of the Glasgow Franciscan Friary in the Gorbals.


.... but just found the photo !

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2168193650047537350tiEhzG


This site has some of the most poignant ..... " stick in the gut " photos ..... and even though I have never been to the Gorbals .... I can "feel" it !

Annie  

[daval57]

I like the look of that site.  I've not come across it before.  I'm off to kip now otherwise I may crash on my computer.



See ya.

[liverpool annie]

Not quite like your picture Dave ... but these are pretty cool !

[tony h]

Well what can I say
I must go to bed more often and leave the Rootschat Elves to weave their magic through the night

Dave, you might like to add this picture to your collection. I do have images of the Friars Annie and I'll post them shortly so as to put faces to names.

Gor blimey

Tony

[tony h]

Here we go.
Unfortunately the names do not show clearly on this scan, but they do on the original.

It has been very useful to see those census images as I can fill in a lot of gaps now about who was doing what, where and when. They didn't half move around a bit.

See you soon
Tony

[tony h]

And this is what 10 years in Glasgow does to you
The man in the centre of the group photo and as he looked 10 years later

[tony h]

Hi,
Think I've got all the ones I know of sorted now

Census                                       Real  name
1871   
James Innocent Barlins 32    Fr Innocent Bulens
Thomas Brandon Butte  29        Fr Brendan Thomas Butti
John Arthur Duffy 26                Brother Arthur Duffy
Ann Glincay   
James Glincay   
Jerry Glincay   
John Glincay   
Mary Glincay   
Rose Glincay   
William Glincay   
Livia Anthony Emmanuel Kawas 44   
Dennis Emmanuel McCarthy 32   
Francis Moneyghan 18   
Peter George Bateard Shulte 38   Fr Bertrand Schulte
Louis Verhagen 28   
Theodore Martin Verhagen 32   Fr Martin Verhagen
   
1881   
George Buckley 46   
Innocent Bulens 42                  Fr Innocent Bulens
Aidan Clancey 47   
Patrick Dalton 43                    Brother Patrick Dalton
George Dowling 38                 Fr George Dowling
Ann Gold 44   
Margaret Gold 6   
Thomas Gold 45   
Thomas Gold 3   
Francis Higgins 35                  Brother Francis Higgins
Antonine Scannell 36               Father Antonine Scannell
Bertrand Schulte 49                Fr Bertand Schulte
Lewis Verhagen 37   
Cuthbert Wood 47               Fr Cuthbert Wood

1891   
Chyston J Coleman 28   
Ormand Conney 26   
Rophel Van Coppenolle 59   Brother Raphael Van Coppenholle
Wilfred D Hafe 35                 Fr Wilfred D’Have
Francis Higgins 45                 Brother Francis Higgins
Erbert Knight  33                  Fr Bruno Knight
Antonio Scamell 16   ?
Pascal Slimey 31                  Brother Paschal Sliney
Rev F Vertrogan                         Rev Francis Verhagen

1901   
Patrick Carroll 24   
Paul Collins 26   
Frederic Furlong 26                Fr Frederick Furlong
Ephrem Hickey 28                Fr Ephrem Hickey
Albert Keshane 39   
Lake Lawton 33   
Roger MacAluse 26               Fr Roger McAleese
Michael McCarthy 46   
Arsenius Merters 65                 Fr Arsenius Mertens
Frederic Mooney 27   
Richard O’Connor 33               Fr Richard O’Connor
Edmund O’Sullivan 36              Fr Edmund O’Sullivan
Alexander Reilly 36   
Cuthbert Wood 67                Fr Cuthbert Wood


Now for some real fun finding out who the others are

Thanks very much again for your help on this one, lots of the jigsaw have slotted into place now.

Very best wishes
Tony

[liverpool annie]

Glad you're happy Tony h !! 

We had fun doing it ....... well ! I know I did ... can't speak for the other fellah ! 

Just as an aside .... on the other census  .... the extra names were pupils or servants ..... the pupils being maybe monks in training .... so at some point you may find them as "Fathers "

And can I ask a question .... what's the difference between a Brother and a Father ? weren't they all monks ?

Annie