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Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« on: Sunday 28 October 07 17:30 GMT (UK) »
As part of my research into Whysall family tree, I am trying to find information on the marriage of Mary CRESSWELL (b.1844, "House Wife") of Ripley, Derbyshire to John WHYSALL (b.1843; Collier).  All I know is that it took place at Riddings Independant Chapel. 

I live some distance from Derbyshire and have little opportunity to visit Family Record Offices, Libraries, etc  - but would also find it hard to know exactly what to look for at this stage.

Can anyone help, please?

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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 October 07 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Whizzer
Can you narrow down the date of the marriage? We'll assume it was after 1862-3, but were there any children, who we will assume were born shortly after (or possibly before! ::)) the marriage?

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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 October 07 18:35 GMT (UK) »
John Whysall marriage 1856 Riddings Independent Chapel spouse Mary Cresswell but this does not fit with birth dates

GRO REF is december 1856 Belper 7b 860
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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 October 07 18:56 GMT (UK) »
hi whizzer

welcome to rootschat

did john and mary have children-
sarah , francis , fred , james , and german

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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 October 07 19:42 GMT (UK) »
Hello all
Thanks for your help here!
Sorry have no more details on date, other than Derbyshire Marriage Index:

Name Mary CRESSWELL Year 1856 married at Riddings Independent Chapel Spouse name John WHYSALL Reg. Office 392 Register Entry ARO/03/048

which fits with your note yonderpeasant .  You are right - does not fit with birth dates. 

Yes they had children Frank/Francis 1859 , susana 1863, Thomas 1866, Frederick 1870, James 1872, German 1874
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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 October 07 19:50 GMT (UK) »
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kids are on 1881 census on igi this should help trace them on ancestry etc

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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 October 07 20:01 GMT (UK) »
The children were probably baptised at the Independent Chapel, are the Registers available or have they been lost?  mrswoman.

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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 October 07 20:02 GMT (UK) »
ev and all
Yes - thanks - i have this, with John aged 48 and Mary aged 45 in 1881.  Therefore John would have to be born 1833 and Mary born 1836, which fits with date of 1856 for marriage.

Only trouble is, this fact blows out a lot of my other links!  I am really searching for true parents of Thomas Whysall 1866.  Are they this John and Mary......?

Or, could there be another marriage of Mary CRESSWELL (b.1844, "House Wife") of Ripley, Derbyshire to John WHYSALL (b.1843; Collier) NOT at Riddings Independant Chapel?

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Re: Marriage records for Riddings Independant Chapel, around 1863
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 October 07 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Whizzer

What conflicting info do you have for being unsure about Mary and John as Thomas' true parents? It all looks pretty reasonable as far as the census info goes.

There is a birth record for Thomas Whysall in 1866 if you want to order the certificate Details are Belper, Jun quarter 1866, Vol 7b Page 444

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