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« on: Saturday 27 October 07 14:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can someone help explain what all the info on my grandads and great uncles record cards mean please.

Ones is for Clifford Chappell Reg No 2991 and James Chappell Reg No 2476 (both are top left hand corner cards)

Thank you so much

Jo
Chappell - Crofton/Wragby/Wakefield, Yorkshire
Kirk - Lincolnshire
Pell - Huddersfield/Bretton/Cumberworth/Barnsley
Sutcliffe - Halifax/Lofthouse Gate, Yorkshire.
Cocker - Ryhill/Wragby
Pickering - Dewsbury/Ossett

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 October 07 16:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Jo,

James Chappell, Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry, Private, promoted to Serjeant, No.2476.
He was awarded the British War and Victory Medals (the mark denotes as Serjeant Chappell). He was also awarded the 1914/15 Star as he entered the Theatre of War (France in this case) within the qualifying period (13th April 1915). He was killed in action. This link will take you to the CWGC entry:

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1543224

The numbers to the right are the actual medal roll numbers which are onle searchable at the National Archives and may, or may not provide any additional details.

The MIC for Clifford, although a different format, provides the same details, only in this case it looks like he was discharged on 16th November 1916(?). I cannot see him on the WW1 Pensions Records on Ancestry, which are taken from WO 364. There is a small chance that his service record may have survived in WO 363, which is only searchable at the National Archives.

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Phil
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Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 October 07 17:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks you so much for that.  I did try to work it out but to no avail.
Best wishes
Jo
Chappell - Crofton/Wragby/Wakefield, Yorkshire
Kirk - Lincolnshire
Pell - Huddersfield/Bretton/Cumberworth/Barnsley
Sutcliffe - Halifax/Lofthouse Gate, Yorkshire.
Cocker - Ryhill/Wragby
Pickering - Dewsbury/Ossett

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 October 07 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Phil, did you have to download the cards for all that, or are you looking up the records onsite ?
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 October 07 18:09 BST (UK) »
Hello Newf,

I just clicked on the links Jo put up at the bottom of the posting and opened them. You should see a complete MIC download (NA cover sheet plus the set of six cards). You can save them or just leave them open to play around with them.

Phil
Sussex: Satcher (Hamsey) and Gatton (East Grinstead)
Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
Poland: Gonet, Deren

Forest Row: War Memorial and Camp WW1
Lewisham War Memorials & WW1 Graves

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 October 07 18:35 BST (UK) »
ah - doh ..... didnt spot those links  ....  ::)

Cheers !
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 October 07 22:18 BST (UK) »
James could have been in 1/4th or 1/5th Battalion both landed in France April 1915.

His medal roll would tell you this  0-2-103-B3  Page 250 will give you WO329/1455. This is for the British War Medal & Victory medal Roll book.

0-2-2B page 108=1915 Star WO329/2761 medal roll book.

Clifford could have been with the 8th Service (Pals) Battalion landed in France Aug 1915.

0-2-103 B31 page 4068= WO329/1468 BWM & VM.
0-2-88  page 770 Star 1915 WO329/2763.

He also got the Silver War Badge.WO329/3135

 WO=War Office.
 329=Medal rolls.
  Then the number.

You would need them to order the medal rolls at the National Archives. The Medal Rolls will give you the Battalion they moved overseas with.

Because Clifford got the SWB, the roll will tell you the Battalion, day he joined up, reason for discharge.


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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 October 07 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that.

I do have some info on Clifford I also have his discharge papers. My cousin has his medals. 

He was shot in the hand which then travelled through his knee.  I remember the wound to his hand as it left him with 2 fingers and a thumb which had a pincer movement, he also lost part of his palm.

Jo
Chappell - Crofton/Wragby/Wakefield, Yorkshire
Kirk - Lincolnshire
Pell - Huddersfield/Bretton/Cumberworth/Barnsley
Sutcliffe - Halifax/Lofthouse Gate, Yorkshire.
Cocker - Ryhill/Wragby
Pickering - Dewsbury/Ossett

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 October 16 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Good morning

I have just received my somme 100 remembrance poppy and was pleased to find this post as my poppy is for the commemoration of serjeant james chappell 2476. And I was trying to find some information out about this wonderful man