Pre 1837 look up request.

[Stewart R]

Does anybody have access to the pre 1837 parish registers for Stoke Damerel & East Stonehouse? If so I am keen desperate to track down any information for the surname "Wolfendale" particularly the given names of James (possibly a Royal Marine) and his wife Kezia (born in Australia in c1796) and their children, John Thomas Perry born c1825 and William born c1821.

I would be very grateful to anyone who has access to the above information if they could have a look for me.

Regards

Stewart

[Plymouth_Ian]

Hi Stewart R,

Couldn't find a record for the marriage, but found the following in the East Stonehouse Parish Record (on CD):

Baptism

William Perry Wolfendale 27/12/1818
James Perry Wolfendale 06/08/1820
John Perry Wolfendale 14/03/1822
John Thomas Perry Wolfendale 20/06/1824
Thomas Perry Wolfendale 15/01/1826

All listed with Father as James Wolfendale "Serjeant" in the Royal Marines.  Mother transcribed as Kezia, Zekia, Zakiah & Tezia.

I wouldn't expect a "bookie" to give you very long odds that the mothers Maiden name was Perry

Hope this helps,

Ian

[Stewart R]

Ian

Thankyou very much that's brilliant and yes it does seem that Perry would be kesia's  maiden name. Armed with that info I think a visit the Australian convicts web site to see if she had a dubious parent or two . An interesting selection of variations to her name as well

Talking of names I'm rather drawn towards the three boys all having almost the same name and I'm wondering if one or more had died as babies. As I am a descendant of one of those it's all rather puzzling

Not wishing to push your generosity to far as you've already helped a great deal but do you have any access to death records? (or any other Rootschatters reading this)

Regards

Stewart
 
 

[toni*]

i could nay see any burials on familyhistoryonline, sorry, and searching just under the name of Wolfendale and Devon on the same site just gives me this 1881 census:~

RG11 2195 138 51 - 8 Wyndham St W Plymouth St Andrew Devon England
Mary A, Mary A & Minnie
(shout if you need the full details)

no Wolfendale marriages on Phillimores either (devon only searched )

[Stewart R]

Thanks Toni for your interest however I do have a copy of the census to which you refer. Minnie is my Great Grandmother and she is the Daughter of either John Perry Wolfendale, John Thomas Perry Wolfendale or Thomas Perry Wolfendale.   

Thanks again 

Regards

Stewart

[Plymouth_Ian]

Hi Stewart,

The same thought occurred to me whilst I was looking at that information.

No burials listed for "Wolfendale" in the East Stonehouse parish 1813-1840.

Concentrated on the East Stonehouse parish because of Stonehouse Barracks (Durnford Street).

If I get time, I'll look in Stoke Damerel / Plymouth (St Andrews) & Plymouth (Charles the Martyr).

Best Regards,

Ian

[Stewart R]

Ian

Thankyou for your interest and I appreciate your offer

Your thoughts regarding Kezia's maiden name has also had a result as I looked on the Australian BMD website and found a Kezzia Perry being born in 1791. A slight discrepancy with the date but I feel it's to coincidental to ignore and will delve deeper. I suppose I'm lucky to be searching for such uncommon names. 

Thanks again

Regards

Stewart

[Plymouth_Ian]

Hi Stewart,

I've looked at Plymouth (Charles & St Andrew), St Budeaux, Stoke Damerel & Pennycross records without success.

I have found a James Wolfendale buried in East Stonehouse on 13/09/1835 aged 48, notes say he was from Devonport (So much for my previous statement ).

I went to a Devon Family History Society day in June which painted a truly horrific picture of Plymouth around this time period, especially the East Stonehouse and Barbican areas.

It was one of the most crowded and therefore unhealthy places in Great Britain.

Best Regards,

Ian

[deb usa]

Hi everyone

Hope you don't mind me butting in 
I thought I would try and find  Minnie Wolfendale's father.

In 1881 Minnie is with her mother Mary A Wolfendale (b c 1825) in Stonehouse.I have traced them back...

In 1841... Kezia Wolfendale (50) is in Stonehouse with William, 25 and John 14.

In 1851:
Fore street, stonehouse
Mary A Wolfendale is head, mar 25  (mother of Minnie in 1881 census)
Mary dau 2
Elizabeth dau 10... this is strange as she should have been emunerated first because of age ... also Mary A, mum, would have been 15 when she was born .... )


West Street, Stonehouse
Kezia Wolfendale wid 52 b NSW, Sydney
William son 30 unm

In 1861:
Thomas Wolfendale is a patient, 32 UNM, Gunners mate RN in the Royal Naval Hospital, Stonehouse

Also in 1861
Mary A Wolfindell (sic), head MAR seamans wife
Mary A dau 12

1871
east Stonehouse, 45 Fore Street
Mary A Woffendale (sic) head WID, 46 Nurse
Mary A dau unm 22 tailoress
william Rial/Riel  boarder in charge3
Edgar Rial/Riel      "

so at this stage we have Minnie's mother already married in the 1851 and 1861 censuses.

Thomas Wolfendale is still unmarried in 1861 ...so he's not the dad.
William Wolfendale , unmarried,is with his mother, Kezia in 1851 ... not the dad

There is this marriage:
Dec q 1848, Stoke Damerel
John Thomas Perry Wolfendale
on same page ....
Mary Ann Bean
Mary Ann Collings
vol 9 pg 553

Minnie was b c 1872 ... Mary A Wolfendale (55) in 1881 says that Minnie (9) is her daughter .... but if she was a widow by 1871 .... then who is the dad ...I tend to think that Minnie is the daughter of mary A b c 1849/50 ...Hope I am making sense here 

I will look for more

deb