Lost my Gt Grannie... Kate Williams .. Princes Risborough

[Lesanne]

I've lost Gt Gran in 1891 and her family. Please keep a look out for her.
   
In 1881, Kate was 2 yrs old and youngest of John Williams and Wife Ann.
They were living at Turnip End, Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire.

Kate's birth gro ref is Sept 1878 Wycombe 3a 549.

That's all I have, prior to marriage in Dec 1898 Cookham Berkshire.
I would be most grateful for any help please, in locating them in 1891 or 1901. At all

Many thanks, Lesanne 

[PaulineJ]

Looking at the family in 1881 the others kids are a better bet for chasing. I'll have  a scout for 'em.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=572105

Pauline

Update: some may be on piece 1143 in 1891.

[Lesanne]

Thanks Pauline. I bet they are all hiding... 

I'm afraid, that link doesn't work for me.
They think I'm logged on with an already in use email 

Thanks, Lesanne.

[Lesanne]

At last I have managed to find piece 1143...    father is Reuben.
Kate and siblings father is John Williams c1848 Bucks (Princes Risborough).

I think I need to find John's parents or even the parents of wife Ann Smith c1849 Bradenham, Bucks.
Marriage Sept 1871 Wycombe 3a 657.

1881 Turnip End Princes Risborough
 John Williams c1848 P.Ris Head
 Ann        c1849 Bradenham Wife
Ada        c1870 P.Ris.
John       c1873  "
Thomas  c1876 "
Rose      c1877 "
Kate       c1879 "

Thanks in anticipation. 

[Lesanne]

So, Ann Smith has dad William Smith (I think) and she marries John Williams.
All in and around Princes Risborough.

The record office better take on extra staff, the amount of certs I'm gonna be ordering.....    

No small wonder, nobody else in the family, is looking for them.... 

[allisont]

Ann Smith in 1871 RG10/1409 fo 87 p 16 has William as father

[Lesanne]

  Thank you Allisont.
Yes, that looks good, especially as there is a young ADA in there, aged 2.

William head 40
Elizabeth wife 35
Ann 21 = Elizabeth 14 at Ann's birth... 

Next family George Smith 29... 

Now to find a John Williams...... b 1848.  Princes Risborough, Bucks.

  Thanks again.   Lesanne.

[allisont]

Those ages are transcribed wrong if you look at the original they are marked but probably say 60 and 55.
In 1851 they are 42 & 35 HO107/1720 fo564 p13 (there is a George age 9)
In 1861                50 & 45 RG9/862 fo46 p13

For John Williams I was looking at these but probably totally wrong!
1861 RG9/862 fo53 p27 with the Janes (Sep Qtr 1854 marriage Daniel Janes with Maria Williams (possibly))

1851 HO107/1720 fo 572 p28 with John & Elizabeth Lacey and Harrick Williams, looking at original, could be Mariah (there is a Ann Lacey lodging with the Smiths in1851)

1841 HO107/42 fo5 p5 (the Laceys)

I gave up when I couldn't find a Maria/h Lacey marrying a Williams

[Lesanne]

  Thank you for that.
With William and Elizabeth much older, it makes ADA more likely to be their grandaughter.
Daughter of John Williams and Ann Smith.

  Poor Elizabeth ... is Julia her last offspring.
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On that 1851 for William and Elizabeth Smith is an 'Ann Lacey' 39 Widow.
Having a quick 'whizz' for John Williams in 1851...
there is one with a John and Elizabeth Lacey. ... Mother is a widow  and John is down as grandson, aged 2.
HO107 1720 28 Speen, Bucks.

Thanks for your help Allisont