1851/61 lookup Edwin ROBINSON

[casabob]

Could anyone lookup an

Edwin ROBINSON, living in Salford, father of Arthur Robinson (b.1866) .  Sorry the details are so sketchy, but he was definitely deceased by 1892 when his son got married in Whalley Range Wesleyan Chapel.

Many thanks in advance and seasons greetings to all

[skb]

Can't find him in 1851. I think this is him in 1861. There are lots of Robinsons and I stopped at the first one that looked like an Edwin.

RG9 2918 22 sched 207

6 Half St

Edwin Robinson,head,m,24,Mechanic, Reddish(?) Lancs
Catherine          ,wife,m,20,                 Glasgow Scotland
Thomas              , son,1,                      Salford

If you don't think this is him I'm happy to check further.

And here are the other people with Hannah Brunt
Reference should have been RG9 2924 103. They are enumerated as 4 separate schedules all at the same address

Sched 164
Robert Mason,head,m,48,Coal Dealer,Lancs Cartmell
Mary              ,wife,m,43,                     Lancs Garstang
Betsy             ,dau u,19, Cotton Weaver,Lancs Salford
Richard           ,son,u,14,Machine Minder (or Winder), Lancs Salford
John               ,son,11                          Lancs Salford
Agnes             ,dau,8                           Lancs Salford
Mary               ,dau,5                            Lancs Salford
Sarah(?)         ,dau,2                           Lancs Salford

Sched 165
Hannah Barbour,lodger,u,30,Cotton Weaver,Manchester

Sched 165A
John Leatham(?),lodger,widower,76,Silk Weaver,Bolton (or did he mean Buxton?)

Sched 165B
Hannah Brunt

[casabob]

Dear skb

Thanks for the info, I think this probably is the right Edwin Robinson, as he is listed as a 'fitter' on his son's marriage cert., and this seems to fit.
Intriguingly, we also know that he died fairly young and his wife remarried someone called Entwistle.  On the 1881 census, there's a Catharine Entwistle, born Scotland, aged 38, married to a Richard Entwistle.  Do you think they could be the same person - according to the 1861 census, Catherine was aged 20, i.e. born around 1840, but the Catharine (sic) on the 1881 census was aged 38, i.e. born around 1843.  Do you thnk they could be the same person?  I would be grateful for your thoughts on the matter.

Thanks again for all the info

Robert (casabob)

[ndedross]

I came across your question by accident.

You cannot trust the ages on the census to be accurate - especially for the women!

I have one ancestor who only aged 6 to 9 years between each Census from 1851-1901. By 1901 she was 78 years of age, but only claimed to be 63 !!! We can only be certain it is her because of the other family members living with her at each Census.

I have another who increases her age to 18 in 1881 (when she was 16 and married) and then in 1901 has lowered it to 32 !

So a 3 year discrepency should not rule out Catharine Entwistle being the same as the former Catherine Robinson.
It doesn't prove it either!

[Bryant]

an oldie and probably got by now...............

the 1841 to assist the 1851

1841
GUARDIAN STREET, SALFORD, MANCHESTER, LANCS
THOMAS ROBINSON  35  HATTER J        YES
ANN               "          60                        NO
ANN               "          15                        YES
ELIZABETH     "          12                        YES
MARY              "          10                        YES
HANNAH         "           8                         YES
DAVID            "           6                          YES
EDWIN           "           4                          YES
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and living next door but one is this family   

1841
GUARDIAN STREET, SALFORD, MANCHESTER, LANCS
THOMAS ROBINSON  35  BLACKSMITH J   YES (BORN IN COUNTY)
MARY            "           30                            NO
CLARA           "           10                           YES
ACHILLES      "           11                            NO
ISABELLA       "           5                             NO
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