Maiden name for second marriage?*Complete*

[lizdb]

FreBMD has only one contender for little Fanny's birth:

Oc/Nov/Dec 1866
Leeds reg area

Fanny S Thomas

ref 9b 397

(P.S. Hi Carol!)

[carol8353]

If you check www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk you will see that the 1867 marriage for William THOMAS was to Sarah A LONGBOTTOM at St Peter, Leeds.

Jean

So the S in little Fanny's name could stand for Sarah and it could be that the Sarah Longbottom that JDGen found,is in fact her birth mum.

Maybe the enumerator 'presumed' that William and Priscilla were married?

Carol

[avm228]

As Gillian said:

In 1881, Fanny is an inmate at the "Leeds Moral and Industrial Training School" in Leeds.

This Fanny certainly looks like a good candidate - ref. is RG11/4524 folio 127 p10.

I can't easily find her in 1891 or 1901.

Don't know whether this death is connected or just a coincidence:

Fanny S Thomas aged 46: Mar 1913 Islington 1b 326

Anna

[JAP]

Thanks Gillian for the explanation 

So the known facts are that Priscilla SKIPSEY is recorded in the 1881 census as aged 28 and born Leeds.  And that on the birth certificate of her daughter Maud, Priscilla's maiden name is recorded as THOMAS.

There's a likely candidate - Priscilla THOMAS, birth, March quarter 1854, Leeds.

I guess you've searched for Priscilla THOMAS, age ca 7, born Leeds in the 1861 census?  If not that would be a good idea.

Best of luck,

JAP
PS: Carol, the reason you can't find Henrietta in 1881 could be that she was the Henrietta who passed away in 1875 (see reply #7 above).

[JDGen]

Hi All,

Just because both William and Priscilla are shown as married doesn't mean that they were married to each other (you would only know for sure if William was head of household and Priscilla shown as wife).  And daughter in law can mean all sorts of things like stepdaughter etc.  Marital status could be wrong for Priscilla especially if it was just dittoed on the return.  And Fanny, shown as grandaughter may not have any direct connection with either William or Priscilla......etc etc etc!

Gillian, I think you need that marriage certificate for Priscilla and James Skipsey...   OR someone who is going to the records office - at least we know the church.

Jean

[JDGen]

How about this:

Births Mar 1854 THOMAS Priscilla Leeds 9b 352

Jean

[treeworm]

Thank you to everyone:

Jean: I already had this

Births Mar 1854 THOMAS Priscilla Leeds 9b 352

but when I found her 'married' I wasn't sure if it was her.
Jap: In 1861 Priscilla doesn't appear, it's just Henrietta 1816, Ann 1841, Mary 1846, William 1852 and Christiana 1856
But thanks anyway for your help.

To every one, I think I have to agree with Jean ..I need the marriage cert of Priscilla and James Henry..so I'm going to post a Look up request for the Leeds reg. office.   

My very best to all of you for your interest

Gillian.
P.S. Should I *complete* this thread now??   

[JDGen]

Hi Gillian,

Try this:

RG9 3231/16 Page 5, Shackleton, Wadsworth, Yorks (not sure about Yorks geography, is this near Leeds?):

Paul THOMAS, Head, Mar, 49, Farmer of 15 acres born Wadsworth, Yorkshire
Mary THOMAS, Wife, Mar, 46, Farmers wife born Wadsworth Yorkshire
William THOMAS, Son, Mar, 25, Ag Lab born Wadsworth Yorkshire
Sarah Ann THOMAS, Daur, Unm, 23, Cotton Factory Worker born Wadsworth Yorkshire
Grace THOMAS, Daur, Unm, 21, Cotton Factory Worker born Wadsworth Yorkshire
Mary THOMAS Daur, Unm, 19, Cotton Factory Worker born Wadsworth Yorkshire
Susan THOMAS, Daur, 15, Cotton Powerloom Weaver born Wadsworth Yorkshire
Priscilla THOMAS, Daur, 8, At Home born Wadsworth Yorkshire

Jean

Added: Birth for this Priscilla is Mar 1853 Todmorden 9a 191

[JDGen]

Oops, scratch that, Wadsworth Priscilla is still at home in 1871, RG10 4325/26 Page 3 - what are the odds of two Priscilla Thomas's - wonder if they are related....

Jean