Maiden name for second marriage?*Complete*

[JDGen]

RG10 4553/163 Page 13, 7 Turkingtons? Yard, Leeds:

Henrietta THOMAS, Head, Mar, 56, Washer Woman born Yorkshire On the Sea
William THOMAS, Son, Mar, 19, Cloth Dresser Woollen born Yorkshire Leeds
Priscilla THOMAS, Dau in law, Mar, 17, Mule Piecer born Yorkshire Leeds
Fanny THOMAS, Grand daur, 4, born Yorkshire, Leeds

Jean

[JDGen]

RG9 3381/85 Page 19, 11 Billett St, Leeds:

Henrietta THOMAS, Head, N?, 45, Char Woman born Yorkshire Leeds
Ann THOMAS, Dau, Unm, 20, Flax Spinner born Yorkshire Leeds
Mary THOMAS, Dau, Unm, 15, Flax Spinner born Yorkshire Leeds
William THOMAS, Son, 9, Scholar born Yorkshire Leeds
Christiana THOMAS, Dau, 5, Scholar born Yorkshire Leeds
Harriet BOYS, Boarder, Unm, 24, Flax Spinner born Yorkshire Leeds

Jean

[JDGen]

If you check www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk you will see that the 1867 marriage for William THOMAS was to Sarah A LONGBOTTOM at St Peter, Leeds.

Jean

[JAP]

So it seems that more facts are needed before anyone searches any further.

Gillian, I really do think that you need to tell us exactly what it says on the 1874 marriage certificate of Priscilla THOMAS & James Henry SKIPSEY (assuming that you are quite sure that these are your people).

Especially Priscilla's marital status and the name and occupation of her father.

And if that doesn't help, perhaps the 1867 birth certificate of Fanny THOMAS could be the next step.  Remember, just because William & Priscilla were recorded as married in the 1871 census doesn't prove that they were married.

JAP

[carol8353]

See also this thread- same family links.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,263035.msg1486227.html#msg1486227

[treeworm]

Oh dear...just logged in and saw all the replies.....  

Okay..here goes:

Here's the confusion. I don't have the marriage certificate, I have the birth certificate of Maud Skipsey born 1891, daughter of James Henry Skipsey and Priscilla Skipsey, maiden name 'Thomas'. And the marriage certificate of Maud Skipsey to Harold Crossley in 1916, where the names coincide.

Well here they are in 1881- so we have a starting point  
They have been transcribed as being spelt SKIPCEY.

James SKIPSEY   Head      28   Leeds, York,    Waste Willower (Woollen Cloth)    
 Priscilla SKIPSEY   Wife   28   Leeds, York,        
 Henrietta SKIPSEY   Daur       6   Leeds, York,    Scholar    
 John W. SKIPSEY   Son      4   Leeds, York,   Scholar    
 Flory SKIPSEY   Daur        2   Leeds, York,        

There is a marriage on FreeBMD for a James Skipsey and on the same page a Priscilla Thomas in Leeds in June 1874 ref 9b page 578.

This I know is my family. And I have Maud for the same family in 1901 at 3 Jameson St, Leeds

My investigation was to find Priscilla Thomas's family before her marriage. And the only Priscilla Thomas I could find was;

RG10 4553/163 Page 13, 7 Turkingtons? Yard, Leeds:

Henrietta THOMAS, Head, Mar, 56, Washer Woman born Yorkshire On the Sea
William THOMAS, Son, Mar, 19, Cloth Dresser Woollen born Yorkshire Leeds
Priscilla THOMAS, Dau in law, Mar, 17, Mule Piecer born Yorkshire Leeds
Fanny THOMAS, Grand daur, 4, born Yorkshire, Leeds

So...me thinking....was Priscilla 'married' before to William?? And I'm so sorry I caused so much confusion I would have sent off for the marriage cert. but it takes weeks to get to where I am...but I reckon that's what I have to do.
Gillian

[carol8353]

Priscilla seems incredibly young at 17 to be " married" to William and mum to 4 year old Fanny....although it is of course possible 

However I wondered if it meant step daughter.but going back to 1851 dad John Thomas is with the family and there's no mention of a Priscilla on any census other than 1881.

So........maybe they were just 'an item' and never actually married.

Can't find Fanny in 1881 though,nor Henrietta.And with a surname like Thomas it ain't going to be easy

This IS a puzzle isn't it? Don't worry about causing confusion,it's what we do best here 

Carol

[lizdb]

I think it might be dangerous to 'assume' that Fanny is automatically the daughterof William and Priscilla.

Henrietta THOMAS, Head, Mar, 56, Washer Woman born Yorkshire On the Sea
William THOMAS, Son, Mar, 19, Cloth Dresser Woollen born Yorkshire Leeds
Priscilla THOMAS, Dau in law, Mar, 17, Mule Piecer born Yorkshire Leeds
Fanny THOMAS, Grand daur, 4, born Yorkshire, Leeds


She could well be the illegitimate daughter of one of Henrietta's older daughters, Mary or Ann

[carol8353]

She could well be the illegitimate daughter of one of Henrietta's older daughters, Mary or Ann

Good thinking Batman 

I knew you'd come along with some good ideas 

Carol