Maiden name for second marriage?*Complete*

[treeworm]

Hi folks..

If a woman was married and then divorced or widowed, and then she married again...Which name would she use as her maiden name? The original one or the surname from her previous marriage?

Sorry if this is a silly question....but I'm hoping it might clear up something for me.

Thanks Gillian.

[Berni]

hi gillian
im presuming she should use her first marriage name
but i dont know for definate
berni

[Essex export]

Most entries I have seen have used her married name when she remarried but some local authority sites will show three names in the marriage entry such as John Brown, Mary Smith, Mary Green.
Hope this helps.

[JAP]

Hi Gillian,

She can only have one maiden name i.e. the name under which she was born/registered at birth.

As others have indicated, she might be named on indexes, at her second marriage, under her maiden surname or under her (first) married surname or under both.

Depending on the information she provided at the time of her (second) marriage, the certificate might say that she was formerly X (her first married surname) nee Y (her maiden surname).

But, of course, information in indexes and on certificates is not always accurate    Not everyone told the truth, or remembered the truth, or even knew the truth 

Good luck,

JAP

[stanmapstone]

If a woman was divorced it should say in column 2, as an example;
Ann Meredith, formerly Brown (spinster) where Meredith is her married name and Brown her maiden name, and in column 4 Condition it should say  The divorced Wife of John Meredith

If she was a widow it should say in column 2 Ann Brown and in column 4 Widow

At least it does on the certificates I have

Stan

[JAP]

Yes Stan, Indeed.

But, again to stress the point, information on certificates is only as good as 'facts' provided by the informant ...

Gillian, when did the marriage occur.  Divorce was very expensive and virtually unknown until a certain time period.

If you provide full info, RootsChatters might be able to help ...

JAP

[treeworm]

Hi folks, thank to all for their interest.

Here's what I know;

Priscilla Thomas is the maiden name of my gran on her birth certificate.

Her husband was James Henry Skipsey b. 1854 Leeds.

They had 7 children; William 1877, James 1882, Albert 1884, Maud 1891, Tom 1893, Florry 1879 and Henrietta 1875.

I believe they were married in 1874, Leeds, 2nd Qtr, 9b 578.

The problem is that the only Priscilla Thomas that I could find on the census before 1874, was this;

1871 Census:Leeds. Henrietta Thomas 1815 , Priscilla Thomas 1854, William Thomas 1852,  Fanny Thomas 1867

I'm afraid I didn't note down more info when I had access to the census, except that William and Priscilla were married and Fanny was their daughter. I found a marriage for a Priscilla Thomas and William in 1867 Leeds, 9b 555

In 1881, Fanny is an inmate at the "Leeds Moral and Industrial Training School" in Leeds. and I can't find William or Henrietta in 1881.

For those of you who are still with me after this toooo long post  ;DI was thinking and hoping  that maybe Priscilla remarried in 1874 under her married name......Or, that her maiden name and married name were the same

Any help would be great...Thanks,Gillian.

[JAP]

Gillian,

I'm getting very confused 

In your third sentence, did you actually mean marriage rather than birth certificate?  If you have Priscilla's birth cert, then you know what her maiden name was!  But, if you do mean birth cert, what were the names of her parents?

Also, you say that you have found a marriage for a William THOMAS and a Priscilla THOMAS in 1867 in Leeds.  I can't find it on FreeBMD (there's a William THOMAS at the reference you gave but no Priscilla - but we know that FreeBMD is incomplete). If that's the case, then it seems quite likely that THOMAS might have been both the maiden and a married name (from a previous marriage) of the Priscilla who married James SKIPSEY.

Precisely what does it say on the 1874 marriage cert?
Is Priscilla recorded as a spinster or a widow?  (Remember, she might not have told the truth!  If William THOMAS was her first husband, she might not have told James that she'd been married previously - which would have been easier if her maiden name and the name of her first husband were the same!  And there's always the possibility that William was still alive ...)
What is her father's name and occupation on the marriage cert?

And on the 1871 census (if you don't have the details, you could post a request for a lookup for this and also for 1861) was Priscilla recorded as Henrietta's daughter?

Incidentally, there's a death for a Henrietta THOMAS, age 66, in Leeds, Jun quarter 1875.

Whatever it is you really are trying to find out might be able to be sorted out here.  Otherwise, I'd suspect you'd have to purchase (say) Fanny THOMAS's birth certificate or the cert for the 1867 marriage between (you say) William THOMAS & Priscilla THOMAS.

If Priscilla is recorded as Henrietta's daughter in 1871, it is interesting that James & Priscilla SKIPSEY named their first daughter Henrietta ...

Good luck,

JAP

[carol8353]

Well here they are in 1881- so we have a starting point 
They have been transcribed as being spelt SKIPCEY.

James SKIPSEY   Head      28   Leeds, York,    Waste Willower (Woollen Cloth)     
 Priscilla SKIPSEY   Wife   28   Leeds, York,       
 Henrietta SKIPSEY   Daur       6   Leeds, York,    Scholar     
 John W. SKIPSEY   Son      4   Leeds, York,   Scholar     
 Flory SKIPSEY   Daur        2   Leeds, York,       

   127 Charles St   Leeds, Yorkshire

   RG11 / 4519  folio 6   Page  7

There is a marriage on FreeBMD for a James Skipsey and on the same page a Priscilla Thomas in Leeds in June 1874 ref 9b page 578.

Regards

Carol