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Re: Search of Sighthill Cemetery, Glasgow
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 07 August 22 18:11 BST (UK) »
Hello thank you so much for the message .if I have got this right with the information  I have got

Mr John crum was My great great grandad,  My dad's dad was called Allan Cameron mckenzie crum

Allan was one of my father's older brothers. My father was the youngest of the boys, his name was Donald M'kenzie Crum.   You must be Ian's daughter.

I will send you a private message.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Search of Sighthill Cemetery, Glasgow
« Reply #64 on: Monday 08 August 22 01:08 BST (UK) »
Well found, Monica.
Interments
1 Oct 1887, John Crum
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C34W-2999-4

6 July 1867
Jeane(?) McK Crum, wife of John Crum, 419 St Vincent St
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS54-M94H-7

Struggling with her in the death indexes!

The death cert does not include her name.  The only information on the cert is that  a male passerby found a lady outside Quarter Ironworks.  There is a note that her parents were Donald and Ann Mackenzie and in the name column there is a faint word followed by a question mark =  "married?".  A day later the Glasgow Herald had a confirmation entry from her husband John Crum that she had died.  Jane was born 1924 and the 1841 census has her noted as a "miner" living with her father, a blacksmith.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Search of Sighthill Cemetery, Glasgow
« Reply #65 on: Monday 08 August 22 01:17 BST (UK) »
Well Vicky, Glasgow apparently has more parks than Paris and millions of graves, the days when this was all kept well manicured are long gone. Eat or heat is most folks priority and letting the grass grow is more environmentally sound anyhow. My local park hasn't seen the mower yet, a farmer comes in from East Kilbride every back-end and cuts it gratis to feed the cattle.
 I have gt grandparents, I assume, in Sighthill as they lived across the road, would be astonished if they have anything as grand as the Crum Stone ;D, but if you check the index box for Crum you will find that oor Rena is off the Glasgow Crum's and you might get some Crum's from her table!

Bests,
Skoosh.

lol Skoosh - Vicki certainly did get some Glaswegian Crums from my table and it won't be long before I add the Crumbs and Crumbies of Dunbartonshire.   Apparently the port in Dunbartonshire had more business than Glasgow, until Glasgow reduced its pricing and exports, imports and factories moved to Glasgow.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Search of Sighthill Cemetery, Glasgow
« Reply #66 on: Monday 08 August 22 09:51 BST (UK) »
Well Rena, Dumbarton was a Royal Burgh before Glasgow as Glasgow was a Burgh of Regality, being under the Archbishop. Glasgow's trade with the American colonies was hampered as the Clyde wasn't deep enough for the ships which Glasgow at first chartered from Whitehaven in Cumbria. The Toon Cooncil offered Dumbarton the chance of being Glasgow's port which they laughingly turned down.. "Oh how they laughed!"  ;D.
 Plan B, was building our own port & Port Glasgow was the successful result. The volume of traffic became such that unloaded cargoes of tobacco onto barges bound for the Forth & Clyde canal caused such a traffic-jam that deepening the Clyde right up to the Broomielaw was finally accomplished.
 Dumbarton, the Royal Burgh, languished into a kinda "Sleepy Hollow!" with The Lang Dyke constructed, by John Golborne an Englishman, down the middle of the Clyde off Dumbarton to deepen the channel where formerly cattle could cross at low tide and which then became deep enough for the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth.
 The Lang Dyke had a notice thereon ordering ships to "Dead Slow!" and Glesga folk on holiday "Doon the Watter!" laughingly thought that Dead Slow applied to the natives of Dunbarton, the toon that never made it! "Oh how they laughed!"  ;D
 Anyhow I will continue to pay my council tax towards the upkeep of your Crum burial plots, fat chance of any crumbs from the ex-pats, as you folks call yoursels. ;D

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Re: Search of Sighthill Cemetery, Glasgow
« Reply #67 on: Monday 08 August 22 13:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Skoosh,   Thanks for the information and the link.  You definitely have more birds in your area than I do stuck halfway up a Lancashire mountain.

All cemeteries can apply to the National Lottery for funding, which is what Kirk Michael Trust on the Black Isle have done - and as for ex pats not paying their way.  You've just read that a Crum descendant visited Glasgow and probably had to pay for food and parking fees  ;D

As for the Dunbarton Crums - I still haven't untangled (and will probably never untangle) which John lived, who died, and who married who, and which widower married again.  Additionally; I believe one John suffered the loss of his three little lads, William, Robert and John.  He moved along the Clyde to Dunbartonshire and replaced all three boys.... he then had another two boys baptised with the name John"!  which meant he had John, Jackie and wee Jackie.  I've only been following one of those boys plus his brothers Robert and William.   William's daughter married into the Robert Dalglish family, which is where my grandfather, his son and his grandson acquired the name "Andrew Stephenson Dalglish Crum" commonly known as "Steenie"  ;D
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke