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The sins of our Fathers
« on: Friday 19 October 07 18:19 BST (UK) »
Looks like my GGrandfather may have been  a bigamist  :o :o :o

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=262753.msg1482050#msg1482050

Edwin Charles Early (born in 27-01-1848 at Moorfields) changed his name to Earley when he married Catherine Theresa Kangiesser in 1877 St Olave 1D 456 (noted as a batchelor)

However 6 years earlier in 1871  there is an  Edwin Early married to a Jane Susannah Young ,    Islington 1B 317 ( the age is right) Their marriage is recorded in Islington June 1867 1B 317

This might explain why he was 29 years old when he married his lodger Catherine Kangiesser

Sooo  did he leave Jane ? did she die ? can't find any record prior to 1901 . An interesting challenge to find out. Not quite sure where to start though   ???


Thank you Jennifer C for finding this for me.  :-[

Whitchurch, Westminster / Buckinghamshire
Cooper,     Westminster
Pollard     Surrey
Earley,  Holborn London
Bruce,  London
Kangeisser  London
Lawlor, Widnes Lancashire
Hagan   Widnes Lancashire

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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 October 07 18:37 BST (UK) »
if you knew all the answers you'd get bored and give up !!!!!!!!!!!

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ps which marriage are you descended from?
Beds: Chapman, Norris, Nicholls
Cul:  Bone, Casson, Cuppage, Ellwood, Harrington, Harrison, Huddleston, Mawson, McAvoy, Rooney, Sherwen, Singleton, Stephenson, Taylor, Tunstall, Tyson, Wedgwood, Whitehead, Woodall
Herts:  Chapman, Merridan, Seymour
Ire:  Macken, McAvoy, Rooney
Lancs:  Casson, Dixon, Huddleston, Hunter, Muschamp, Skirrow Stephenson, Tyson
Staffs:  Burslem, Tunstall, Wedgwood
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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 October 07 19:16 BST (UK) »
I'm decended from the later marriage Edwin Charles Earley & Catherine Kangiesser   ::)



Whitchurch, Westminster / Buckinghamshire
Cooper,     Westminster
Pollard     Surrey
Earley,  Holborn London
Bruce,  London
Kangeisser  London
Lawlor, Widnes Lancashire
Hagan   Widnes Lancashire

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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 October 07 22:31 BST (UK) »
hi earley
looking at my rellies in 1861 wales census they had come over from ireland
by 1871 wife and all the children bar one vanish but he is there married to another woman and there eldest child is 9!
no deaths makes you think! did she go back home?
well something fishy me thinks
only child is working on a farm as a labourer  lying about his age
need to do more digging
berni
O'Shea. Tailors of Caherciveen. Co Kerry Eire.
Dempsey. Bute dock police. Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
Cadden. Granard, Co Longford, Eire.
O'Brien. Cardiff, Glamorganshire.


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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 October 07 23:24 BST (UK) »
must have been lots of strange things going on back them. Most folk couldn't write or read , few records were kept people moved about a lot to go where the work was. My family spent part of the year in London and part in Lancs between the two docklands where ever the work was.

Census night families must be split up all over the country.

Sounds like work dried up for your rellies and the missus and kids had to go back home to Ireland The eldest kid stayed because he was capable of bringing in some money I guess. The other kids could have been farmed out to other rellies as was my relies when their parents both died.
good luck with your research
Whitchurch, Westminster / Buckinghamshire
Cooper,     Westminster
Pollard     Surrey
Earley,  Holborn London
Bruce,  London
Kangeisser  London
Lawlor, Widnes Lancashire
Hagan   Widnes Lancashire

All Census Lookups are are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes only, I support copyright, a Wife, 2x children  a dobie, 2 x cats, a Tawny owl. and several mice if the drop

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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 October 07 23:37 BST (UK) »
hi earley
you probably right
berni
O'Shea. Tailors of Caherciveen. Co Kerry Eire.
Dempsey. Bute dock police. Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
Cadden. Granard, Co Longford, Eire.
O'Brien. Cardiff, Glamorganshire.

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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 October 07 20:39 BST (UK) »
Years ago divorces were not common and sometimes a couple would just split up, go their separate ways and then marry or take up with another partner.
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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 October 07 22:52 BST (UK) »
Never mind the bigamy, at least you can find the marriages.  I'm quite jealous  ::)

Years ago divorces were not common and sometimes a couple would just split up, go their separate ways and then marry or take up with another partner.

I've got a few of these.  Very difficult to piece it all together with comparitively common names like Baker  >:(
ESSEX  Carter, Enever, Jeffrey, Mason, Middleditch, Pond, Poole, Rose, Sorrell, Staines, Stephens, Surry, Theobald HUNTS  Danns KENT  Luetchford, Wood NOTTINGHAMSHIRE  Baker, Dunks, Kemp, Price, Priestley, Swain, Woodward SUFFOLK  Rose SURREY  Bedel, Bransden, Bysh, Coleman, Gibbs, Quinton SUSSEX Gibbs, Langridge, Pilbeam, Spencer WILTSHIRE  Brice, Rumble
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Re: The sins of our Fathers
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 October 07 00:14 BST (UK) »
Hi early bird

In the on-line 1881 census there is a widowed Jane Early, age 29, born Camden Town, Middlesex, living with unmarried servant Annie Lee, age 52.

There is also the family of Ed Clunes Earley, age 32, born Bishopsgate City, general labourer, married to Catherine, with children Catherine and Susannah. (a mistranscription of Charles)

I suspect that there were two men who have become muddled in your research.

If you ask for a look up in 1871 you may be able to find them in their separate lives.

Beth
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Wiltshire: Webb, Hayter, Mussell, Curtice, Sheppard
Hampshire: Harper, Rawlings
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