George and Charlotte Redman

[Eyesee]

In 1851 Charlotte DUCK, widow aged 57 is at Gosport Road, Fareham, Hampshire with daughter Catherine aged 16 - HO107; Piece: 1661; Folio: 127; Page: 28.

Her age transcribed as 27, but looks like 57 to me.

Ian C

[Jane Masri]

Hi Ian,
Yes, that's Charlotte's mother, I'm looking for Charlotte Redman nee Duck, George's wife     Are we at crossed purposes here 

jane

[Eyesee]

Had found her mother in 1851 so posted it. Can't see Charlotte jnr anywhere in 1841 either. Agree with you Jane that she must have been missed off the enumerators sheet.

There is another REDMAN-DUCK marriage in 1832 at Bosham, Stephen REDMAN to Louisa DUCK. Wondering if they may be connected somewhere.

There are a number of REDMAN families in the Chichester area in 1841 that could be George's parents. Will need to wait for the marriage certificate to confirm this.

Ian C

[Eyesee]

Clair

Looking on the Unassisted Passenger Lists on PROV website there is a George Redman adult, Alfred and George Jnr children, arrived on the Ben Nevis in January 1853. This could be George snr and the two elder sons, who came out first with the rest following later.

Charlotte 35, Edwin Josh 7, Frances 7, Arthur Stephen 5, and Laura Ellen 3, were on the Mermaid which arrived May 1835.

You can see these passenger lists on film at PROV in Melbourne.

Ian C

[Jane Masri]

Hi Ian,
It's very likely there is a connection with that other Redman/Duck marriage.  Plenty of witness names to help solve the puzzle 
I noticed on the 1851 census that George & Charlotte were not short of a bob or two as they had a couple of female servants, so an unassisted passage looks very probable as does the siting you found of Charlotte & younger kids following on a few months later 
I also noticed from a quick sweep of A2A that the Redman family goes way back in Chichester, so that should be interesting for Claire to follow their trail 

jane

[clairhaines]

I am overwhelmed. Thank you so much!!

I posted my little question, went away for a couple of days and have came back and amazed at all the results people have found for me.

It has taken me a couple of hours to digest and think about what everyone has said.

I have found how all the Redmans came to Australia. George and the two oldest boys in 1853, and Charlotte and the 4 youngest almost three years later in May 1855.

I actually drove through the place they came to = Broomfield = today. They ran the Hotel (Inn) there. All that is left is 6 disused goldmines. No trace of the hotel. It was probably only a bark hut.

I have a couple of questions (I am sorry if they seem silly, but am only new to researching in the UK).

1. How do I get the marriage certificate of George and Charlotte? I got onto the GRO and got into the order marriage certificate. But when i put in the year, it came up with an error and stated that "GRO index has to be givenfor pre-1900 E&W birth, death and marriage applications"

What is that???

2. What is the IGI?

I am sure I will have heaps of questions, but it is now 10.30pm way past my bed time, so I might go and get into bed and "sleep on it"

Thanks so much everyone again - especially Ian and Jane. If you need anything done in Australia. Just let me know.

Clair

[Jane Masri]

IGI is the International Genealogical Index & you can find it at the Church of the Latter Day Saints site here  http://www.familysearch.org/  Look for EXTRACTED records rather than member submitted ones (usually a work of fiction 

As far as the ordering of the marriage certificate is concerned, I understand that there are research places in Oz who make orders with the GRO in the UK on behalf of their members.  Ian would be the best person to comment on that.

The certificate you want is in the September quarter 1839.  Chichester registration district.  Volume 7, page 269.   George Redman & Charlotte Duck.

There is a good explanation of ordering certificates on the FreeBMD site here;  http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Certificates.html

There's also a good beginners page here on Rootschat with some good links, but don't be afraid to ask if you get stuck  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,47.0.html

jane

[Eyesee]

Not sure how to order certs in Australia as I am in NZ. I usually get them through our Genealogy Society who has an ordering service, and not online from the GRO.

The Genealogy Society in Victoria may help. Or keep trying on the GRO site. I had a look at it and as long as you fill in the right boxes and check the ones that need checking I got through okay, not having been in there before. We know the reg details so that box should be checked yes on the page that comes up first. The actual details are entered on a later page.

Perhaps someone could do some screen captures of the order forms and add some notes to them as to how to fill in the forms.

Ian C

[clairhaines]

Thanks guys for that.

With a lovely sleep behind me, I had another look at ordering the marriage certificate from the GRO and I was successful. Will let you know the results when I recieve the certificate. It normally takes around a week  to 10 days for letters to get from the UK to Australia. So it may be a while before I know which path to take for George Redman.

Thanks for all your help.

Clair