George and Charlotte Redman

[clairhaines]

I have finally traced a solid lead of my ancestors from Australia to England. I have the following information.

From 1851 census - Chichester
George Redman and Charlotte (nee Duck)
Children
George, Alfred, Rosa Frances, Edwin Joseph, Arthur Stephen

Have found that Charlotte and two children, Edwin and Arthur came to Australia in May 1855 on the "Mermaid". Haven't found how/when Edward and the rest of the children came out. But he arrived as he was listed on the marriage certificate of Edwin Joseph as running a hotel.

How can I keep going backwards and find out more about George and Charlotte and who there families were..... haven't done any research in England before, so I don't know where to start.

From the census, George's birth date would be 1819 and Charlotte's 1822.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

[wozzle]

don' know if you have this
marriage index
name george redman
y/o/r/ 1839
qtr. jul/aug/sapt.
dist. chichester.
county. sussex,west sussex.
vol. 7.
page. 269.
on the same page charlotte duck.

[Jane Masri]

Hi Claire, Welcome to the Sussex board of Rootschat  

Well, you're in luck, I found their marriage on the Sussex Marriage Index (which normally only goes up to about 1837)

Chichester All Saints, West Sussex,   1 Jul 1839:
 George REDMAN, full age bach carp South Pallant Chich
 Charlotte DUCK, minor sp South Pallant Chich

I would say that CARP=carpenter

If Charlotte's age is correct on the census then she would have been only 17 when she married.

You say you don't know when EDWARD & the rest of the children went to Oz, do you mean GEORGE?

The 1851 census states George was born Chichester & Charlotte, Appledram which are adjacent parishes in West Sussex & right on the Hampshire border.
Your next move would be to get their marriage certificate which will give you parents names.  It's on FreeBMD, September quarter 1839, Chichester registration district (7 269)  A copy can be obtained from GRO (Google & you'll find their site)
The only likely siting of George & Charlotte in 1841 is this one;

1841 - Sutton, Ssx  HO107/1094/11/8/9

Constant Redman  65
Samuel                   35
CHARLOTTE            20
GEORGE                 20
Eliza                       5
Sarah                    25
William                    4
Charlotte                1

All born Sussex.  Not sure what relationship they are to each other.  I thought that maybe Constant was George's mother but I can't find a possible marriage on the Sussex Marriage Index.

jane
 

[Eyesee]

The IGI has an extracted baptism for a Charlotte DUCK, 7 Jan 1821, at Appledram, Sussex, parents William and Charlotte, which is a possibility. Fits more with her age of 29 in 1851. A few siblings there as well from 1814 to 1836.

From the Sussex Marriage Index:
Archdeaconry of Chichester Marriage Licence,  19 Jun 1813
William DUCK, bach 21 mariner Bosham (sev.yrs)
Charlotte FARNDELL, sp 21 Appledram (sev.yrs)
Sponsors ss: W.D.; William F. /gardener Chichester

The actual marriage
Appledram, West Sussex,  22 Jun 1813
William DUCK, Bosham (lic) wcop
Charlotte FARNDELL, otp
 
Ian C

[Eyesee]

Jane

I think the family you found may be another one altogether. They were all together in Sutton in 1851 as well. That George and Charlotte appear to be  brother and sister. HO107; Piece: 1653; Folio: 98; Page: 13

There is a George REDMAN aged 20, a carpenter at St Bartholomew, which I understand is in Chichester - HO107; Piece 1119; Book: 3; Civil Parish: St Bartholomew; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 7; Page: 27. No sign of Charlotte.

If it is the Charlotte of 1821 then her mother Charlotte was a widow in Portsea in 1861. May have been a widow in 1841 as well as no sign of William - HO107; Piece 1100; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Appledram; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 4; Page: 2

Ian C

[Eyesee]

There is a will available on DocumentsOnline for a William Duck, mariner of Appledram, dated 1847.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=99976

He must have been at sea in 1841

Ian C

[Jane Masri]

I wasn't very confident with that 1841 census either, Ian.  Your find looks to be the right one.  I wonder where Charlotte was, maybe with her widowed mother?  I'll have a look later when I've got more time.  Meanwhile I think we should wait until we've heard from Claire 

jane

[wozzle]

could this be williams wife charlotte in 1841
transcribed as duch
1841 HO107/1100/book2/4/2.
charlotte duch age 40. b. sussex.
edward duck age 15. b. sussex.
jas duck age 10. b. sussex.
alfred duck age 8. b. sussex.
frances duck age 6. b. sussex.
catherine duck age 4. b. sussex.
living in appledram,sussex
quite a few of the apparent heads of households on the page are mariners

[Jane Masri]

I've had a look for Charlotte (wife of George) in the 1841 census & can't find her    Ian, that certainly looks like George in the 1841 & I can only assume that Charlotte was there but somehow got missed out on the enumerators sheet 
What looks to be their first child, George Henry, wasn't born until 1842 so can't track Charlotte via him 

jane