1841 / 1851 / 1861 ~ GLOUCESTER ~ look up please

[CornBunting]

Hello LU & Cazay,

Firstly.... can I please send information to both of you?

You are both correct about quite a lot. You have given me some snippets that I do not have. If you are looking for John Richings, b.1839 Gloucestershire... son of John Richings ..Butcher of Wotton Under Edge.... I can help you.  How do you relate to him?

 I can help you, but I don't want to give you information you already have. Also....bear with me because I need to eat!

I am so pleased to make this contact with you.

Kind Thoughts

[CornBunting]

Hello Lucy2,

I am not sure you will get this post. But here goes.......... I am looking for any descendants of John Richings, b. 1839 who went to New Zealand in the mid 1860s. I am also interested in any other Richings who relate to his family.

Kind Thoughts

[GuyHenry]

This message is addressed to anyone who has been following this fascinating thread.  Thanks to the information posted by Ishtar, I've confirmed that my great-grandfather, Albert Richings (1855 - 1929) was indeed the son of John and Mary Richings, and the younger brother of the infamous John Richings.    I would love to connect to any of my distant cousins in the UK, New Zealand and Austrailia.   My grandmother, Constance Richings (1893-1966), daughter of Albert, married John A. Jones (another Brit from Birmingham) in the USA (Connecticut) in 1914.  They had five children, including my father David P. Jones (1924 - 2005).  I was born in 1947 and currently live in Phoenix, Arizona.

[CornBunting]

Hello GuyHenry,

You probably have loads of stuff now on Albert Richings, but here goes............ I have been working on the Richings family tree.  (Wotton Under Edge) They are a really interesting bunch.  Why do you call John infamous? Has he done something else?

 I am back to John the Baker....b.1790.  Do you have any info re:  Albert's wife? Her family had a sweet shop near to John's butcher shop.

CornBunting

[GuyHenry]

CornBunting - Thanks for the quick response !!   No - I have nothing more to add to John's story.  Perhaps infamous was too strong a word to apply to him...but it seems that he led an interesting life.

As for Albert's wife, Blanche Tilley, I have a handwritten Tilley genealogy (dated 1955) that goes back to William Tilley (born 1779). Albert (1855 - 1929) and Blanche had five children.  Vivian (b. 1889), Constance (my grandmother1892 - 1966), Elton (killed in Action 1916), Nigel (b. 1905) and Audrey (b. 1909).  Blanche, Vivian, Constance and Audrey all emigrated to the USA and settled in Connecticut.  I believe Albert came with them, but returned to the UK prior to his death.  Blanche died around 1936.  As a youth I knew Vivian and Audrey (Audrey outlived Vivian by several years).  Never heard much about Nigel (I believe he was sort of the black sheep of the family).   Constance was the only one of Albert and Blanche's offspring who had children of her own:  Robert (3 sons, 3 daughters), Audrey (1 son, one daughter), Elton (killed by a car at age 7), David Philip (my Dad - 3 sons, 3 daughters), and Brian (1 son and 2 daughters).  Hope this is helpful.   

[CornBunting]

Hello GuyHenry,

Thank you for getting back to me. You have given me some new info to add to my Albert File. Yes Albert did come back to England. He died soon afterwards and is buried in Bristol. He had quite a send off. It seems he was well liked, and I suspect a bit of a character. He went to Paris to the Races when he was a young man. Do you have a photo of him?
how far back are you? I think my favourite piece of 'treasure' is fing out that John the Baker, Albert's GFather..b.1790 had a lisp.

I have info/photo of Elton, d.1916. He was a bright lad. Is there anything in particular you want to know about Albert or his kin.? I have assorted info.

CornBunting









 

[GuyHenry]

No, I don't have a photo of Albert.  I believe that some old family photos are being kept by my cousins on the east coast.  I can certainly e-mail them to see what they might have.  My great grandfather Albert must have been an interesting fellow.  My great-grandfather on my mother's side, however, was a Presbyterian minister.  He died in 1953 at age 83 - and I recall meeting him in 1950 when I was 3.

I know very little about Albert, except that he and Blanche had a bit of a falling out toward the end of his life.  Blanche died in 1942 in Stamford, Connecticut.

Actually I'm surprised how little I actually know about the Richings, given that I'd visit my father and grandparents every summer in Connecticut while growing up.   No one ever sat down with me to explain the family history. 

My records go back to John the Baker - although I don't know how many children he actually had.  As for the "lisp" - I had one too as a child (ha, ha), but fortunately an elementary school speech therapist worked with me to correct it .

I've seen a photo of Elton in uniform.   So sad that he was killed in the Great War, and that his namesake, my uncle Elton, was run down at age 7 by a drunk driver 9 years later.. 

Any information you have regarding Albert, his kin, and Elton would be most appreciated.  I will share it with my siblings, cousins and my own children.

THANKS !!!!!!!

[CornBunting]

Hello GuyHenry.......
                             That is excellent.....I can pass info to you without you being 'snowed under' with stuff you already have. I will start with Albert and work back.     
Re: John b.1839.(went to New Zealand). He paid a high price for any mistakes (estranged from his family and children). Would you have or be able to access a photo of him? Re: John, b.1839. His daughter had If I remember rightly, 4 sons . 3 were killed in WW1 the youngest was still a boy and too young to fight. That must have 'marked' him. Perhaps that was a similar situation with Elton and Nigel?....
Are you able to access through a site English Newspapers? This site is about to be absorbed? by Ancestry I believe.
I will send you the first installment later today.

CornBunting

[GuyHenry]

I don't have a photo of John - but other family members may.

Nigel would have been too young to fight in WWI

I'm not sure when Albert and Blanche, Vivian, Nigel and Audrey emigrated to the US.  My grandmother, Constance came over when she was about 18, and married my grandfather in 1914 when she was 22. 

I haven't explored accessing English Newspapers through another site.  I'm quite new to this.  Had my DNA tested on Ancestry in December.  The two top matches were my 1st cousins, which gave me a higher level of comfort in the process.

Among the 40 or so people who I was matched to using DNA, I found a Scott Richings in New Zealand who is a 4th or 6th cousin.   We are trying to determine exactly how we are related.

He's only been able to trace his Richings lineage back to 1892 as follows:

"My family Richings ends with confirmation at James Richings born 1892 died 1975 and is buried here in new Zealand at Purewa cemetery with his wife Sarah Richings born 1892 died 1944.
It appears they married in 1919 in Downpatrick Ireland.
Then immegrated to New Zealand on the ship Ionic which departed from Plymouth England 8 Sept 1919 and arrived in NZ at Lyttleton Christchurch.
They had 2 children Vera and my grandfather Thomas.
A Parish in Somerford Keynes shows records of a Sarah and James Richings for their time period but I don't know what that information is."

If a James Richings (b. 1892) shows up in any of your records, please let me know !!

Thank you so much !!!!!!

GuyHenry