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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 October 07 19:26 BST (UK) »
Just two in 1871, neither yours as one unmarried & one mar. to Alice but they may come in handy!:

1871 RG10/591 fol.155
Prince Channel, London aboard vessel 'Lusitania'
Charles Johnson  unmarried 35  A.S.  b. Gottenburg, Sweden

1871 RG10/556 fol.84 p.51
12 Gardam St, Mile End Old Town, London
Charles Johnson head mar 35 Rigger & Mariner b.Sweden Nat Brit Subject
Alice         "         wife   mar 29                      Norfolk, Lynn
Florence  "         dau           5  Scholar           Middx Stepney
Alfred       "         son           3        "                 "           "
Alice M     "         dau           1                           "            "
Sarah Stanway sister mar 38                       Norfolk Lynn
John T     "          son           1month             Middx  Stepney

1881 you can find yourself of course on www.familysearch.org

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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 18 October 07 19:40 BST (UK) »
1901 RG13/4723 fol.61 p.63
26 Wilson St. North, Sunderland
Charles Johnson head mar 58 General Labourer Shipyard  Sweden, British Subject
Annie         "        wife  mar  52                     Essex, Manningtree
Emma         "   boarder  s      4                     Durham, Sunderland

1901 RG13/4723 fol.144 p.38
141 Wayman St, Sunderland
Charles Johnson head m 58 Driller Marine Engine Works   Sweden
Sarah        "         wife  m 49                              Durham Sunderland
Florence    "         dau  s 23  Dressmaker                 "           "
Albert        "         son  s 18  School Teacher            "            "

1901 RG13/353 fol.17 p.25
62 Augusta St, Poplar, London
in household of Jane Tale, Dressmaker
Charles Johnson boarder s 59 Seaman A B    Sweden
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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 October 07 19:53 BST (UK) »
1891 haven't found yours yet! Wonder if the 2 families knew each other in Sunderland?

1891 RG12/4148 fol.24 p.41
141 Wayham St, Sunderland
Charles Johnson head m 50 Joiner in Shipyard   Sweden
Sarah         "        wife  m 38                   Durham Sunderland
Florance      "       dau      13 Scholar          "             "
Albert          "       son        8      "                "             "

1891 RG12/62 fol.41 p.3
2 Cadogan Cottages, Chelsea, London
in household of Edward Archer, decorator
Charles W. Johnson boarder s 49 Upholsterer   Stockholm Sweden

will have another look for yours in 1891 census later, perhaps all at sea!!

Barbara
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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 18 October 07 20:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbara,
You will have to give me five days to get my head around all of this information....Where do I start?.....Lets try!
1901 Census placing CJ and Family at Wilson St is my Gr Grandfather.
Your findings in the 1861 Census is the hard one and ALL three are a possibility, the Charles from Gothenburg is perfect at the age of 21 in 1861,
Charles the lodger in South Shields is only 8 miles from where my Charles and Family ended up in 1881/1901, so, he is also a strong candidate, as the third Charles on board the Edgar.....the only thing now to do is to find a Charles with a Father called John to eliminate the others...Simple... NO!
I've checked the Familysearch site...no luck....Thanks for the info to date.
Derek
Johnson  England/Sweden
 Baxter  Norfolk
Nevins  Northumberland
Armstrong  Northumberland
Rutherford  Northumberland
Backhouse  Essex
 Bland  Durham


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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 18 October 07 20:15 BST (UK) »
Sorry I sent a post the same time that I received yours
THESE JOHNSONS are everywhere and having TWO sets of Charles Johnsons in  Sunderland (1891) is amazing, I think in 1891 C J was at sea
Johnson  England/Sweden
 Baxter  Norfolk
Nevins  Northumberland
Armstrong  Northumberland
Rutherford  Northumberland
Backhouse  Essex
 Bland  Durham

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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 18 October 07 23:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek,

Last bit of info then I'll leave you to sort them out!

1891 census RG12/4148 fol.100 p.20
26 Wilson St, Sunderland
Annie Johnson wife married 40  Housekeeper  Durham Sunderland
Amelia    "        dau               13                             "              "
Robert    "        son                 6                             "              "

1891 RG12/3579 fol.85 p.2
Sunny Bank Rd, Lindley cum Quarmby, Huddersfield, Yorks
In household of George Lendrum, woollen manufacturer
Amy Johnson serv s 17 Domestic Servant  Durham Sunderland

1891 RG12/4138 fol.34 p.61
Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland
in household of William Lindsay, joiner
Harriet Johnson Servant s 16 Domestic  Durham Sunderland

Kind regards, Barbara
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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 October 07 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbara,
Thanks for all of the info to date, I am now  fairly clear on the History of Charles Johnson's life now that you have helped me out, his UK record is :
From the 1871 to 1901 Census he is only at home with his wife/children twice, in 1891 and 1901, we presume at sea in the others.
I have just found his death in 1911 in Sunderland at the age of 69.

I now need to find a contact in Sweden via a Website ( checked www.ddss.nu with no luck) and presently viewing www.cyndlist, Hopefully, I may find more info on the three C J's which you found in the 1861 Census.
If by chance you are aware of any other Swedish Websites, or , any other contacts I would be grateful if you passed them on to me.
I'm sure there's help out there somewhere
Thanks Again and Enjoy your Day.
Regards
Derek














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Johnson  England/Sweden
 Baxter  Norfolk
Nevins  Northumberland
Armstrong  Northumberland
Rutherford  Northumberland
Backhouse  Essex
 Bland  Durham

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Re: SWEDEN: Charles Johnson (British Subject)
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 11 June 15 12:11 BST (UK) »
Good morning here is Maggie from Canada.
I am trying to find any connections between Charles Johnson (British Subject) who was born in Sweden ( Stockholm or Gothenburg ) in 1809 or 1811 which his sea records showed his birth years.  I am hoping to see if any connection between Charles Johnson and Lewis Johnson who also was seaman like Charles.   Lewis was uncle of my 3rd great grandfather William Johnston.  I have learned that many of Johnstons born in Sweden like Lewis who was born in Gothenburg in 1810 and died in Dundee on January 1 1878.  Lewis' parents were Ormond Johnson and Euphemia Pratt.   Any connections ???  William's marriage entry showed that his parent were Christina Grubb and William Johnston but his death entry was done by his wife Euphemia Stewart that she said that her husband William's parent were Lewis Johnston and Helen Grubb.   Confusing huh ??? but I did go on digging up more farther that William was listed as nephew of Lewis Johnston and Helen Grubb after all.   

Charles Johnson (British Subject) born in Stockholm/Gothenburg in about 1809-1811 who was married to Euphemia Cabel/Cable in Dundee, they had daughters named Euphemia who was born on July 8 1833 in Dundee.  Another daughter Elizabeth who was born in 1844.   Charles' wife Euphemia Cable died on August 17 1854 at Cameron's Close Murraygate in Dundee.  Her death entry showed that she was wife of Charles Johnson sailor, died at 46 years old from decline.    Also their son Charles Johnson died at 3 months old baby on December 5 1839 from chin cough.   Any idea what is chin cough ?  That was written on the records from Howff graveyards in Dundee.

Census 1851 showed that The Johnston family lived at St Marys Close, in Dundee.
Charles Johnson was British Subject - Seaman born in Sweden aged 40.
Euphemia Cables aged 43 as Seaman's wife born in Dundee.
Euphemia aged 18 born in 1833 - Dundee
Elizabeth aged 7 born in 1844 - Dundee.

I think that I saw that this family moved to settle down in Australia or New Zealand after their mother Euphemia Cable died (from Ancestry website).  I am trying to trace down Charles Johnston but simply he was hard to trace him down because he was seaman at sea.

I am hoping that there is any connections between Charles Johnson and Lewis Johnson who were British Subjects from Sweden.  I am trying to find out who were Charles' parent but maybe I will not find out anything on him but I will not give up yet.    Any Johnston information from you will be much appreciated.   Thank you again.

 Thank you cherrio Margaret