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Irish in English Army WW1
« on: Thursday 18 October 07 08:17 BST (UK) »
Just found out Family member was in the English Army and sent to France in WW1. He was William Hoey born 1893 Irish and livind in Dublin. When the War was over he came back to Ireland. What I would like to know is there any was I can find out about his Army and War record in the English Army. Dont know were he joined the Army but I would think it was in Dublin were he lived. I know nothing at all about his Army life. I think he was only in the Army during the War and was not hurt.

Hope some body can help.
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Re: Irish in English Army WW1
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 October 07 08:44 BST (UK) »
you could start here if you had an idea of his number or regiment.Theres 24 William Hoeys which can be whittled down even less with no middle name and a few Royal Dublin Fusiliers and other Irish Regiments.They cost £3.50 to download you get 6 on a page

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=first_name%3dwilliam%7clast_name%3dhoey&catid=10&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=*


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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 October 07 08:45 BST (UK) »
Link to national archives medal card search http://www.rootschat.com/links/03g/
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Re: Irish in English Army WW1
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 October 07 09:08 BST (UK) »
Just found out Family member was in the English Army and sent to France in WW1. He was William Hoey born 1893 Irish and livind in Dublin. When the War was over he came back to Ireland. What I would like to know is there any was I can find out about his Army and War record in the English Army. Dont know were he joined the Army but I would think it was in Dublin were he lived. I know nothing at all about his Army life. I think he was only in the Army during the War and was not hurt.

Hope some body can help.
Highway.

Not trying to be political but it was and is the British Army and at that time Ireland was still part of Britain with quite a number of Irish regiments in the British Army.  There must be a good chance that he would want to serve in an Irish regiment though you can't guarantee that he would get any choice.  My Welsh grandfather joined up whilst working in Yorkshire and asked to be transferred with another Welshman to a Welsh regiment, which was allowed. 

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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, ClwtyBont, Brynrefail, TalySarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera


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Re: Irish in English Army WW1
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 October 07 09:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Highway

I don't want to sound too pedantic but just to avoid any misunderstandings can I just offer the constructive comment that this chap was British and served in the British Army. No big deal but sometimes when searching the use of the wrong terminology can foul up the results.
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Re: Irish in English Army WW1
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 October 07 11:10 BST (UK) »
Hello Highway,
Ancestry have British Army WW1 Pension records. You may be able to find your William Hoey there. The records include information on next of kin, etc. I have found mention of some of my Irish ancestors there.
Good luck!
Lizzie Jean.      :D
<b>Northern Ireland</b> (County Down) - Graham, Reid;
<b>Ireland </b>(County Carlow)- Mahon, Redmond;
(County Tipperary)-Donnell, Keating; Ireland? - Cavanagh/Kavanagh;
<b>England</b> (Devon)-Furze; (Lancashire)-Denny, Cavanagh;
<b>Scotland</b> (Fife)-Martin, Seath;
<b>Germany</b>- Schli(e)chtweg, Boerner;
<b>Australia</b>-Graham, Martin, Schlechtweg, Sleswick.

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Re: Irish in English Army WW1
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 October 07 17:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks everybody for your help will take all that on board.
Thanks again.
Highway.

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Re: Irish in English Army WW1
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 November 07 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Highway

I don't want to sound too pedantic but just to avoid any misunderstandings can I just offer the constructive comment that this chap was British and served in the British Army. No big deal but sometimes when searching the use of the wrong terminology can foul up the results.

One of the last times the English had an army was around the Rising of '98 when Betsy Gray and the United Irishmen fought them at the Battle of Ballynahinch. Since the Act of Union in the early 1800s it has been the British Army. A great many Irishmen have been extremely proud to fight and give their lives for the British Army. 

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Re: Irish in English Army WW1
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 November 07 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Highway

I don't want to sound too pedantic but just to avoid any misunderstandings can I just offer the constructive comment that this chap was British and served in the British Army. No big deal but sometimes when searching the use of the wrong terminology can foul up the results.

One of the last times the English had an army was around the Rising of '98 when Betsy Gray and the United Irishmen fought them at the Battle of Ballynahinch. Since the Act of Union in the early 1800s it has been the British Army. A great many Irishmen have been extremely proud to fight and give their lives for the British Army. 

Christopher

It is sad when you come across the war grave of someone who was almost certainly Irish (from the name) but had to serve in the British Army under a pseudonym presumably because of problems with the IRA back home.

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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, ClwtyBont, Brynrefail, TalySarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera