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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #18 on: Monday 21 January 08 15:08 GMT (UK) »
afternoon, citizensmith,
thanks for the reply. i always knew i was from royalty. just a hunch. ;)

all the names you have mention are definately in my ancestoral line. how interesting. i think i will have to look at the book i believe you mentioned on previous chat.

do you have much info on them then and is there a special interest for a reason??
amanda
buckley
webb
boswell (shadrack line)
pearse
lee
smith (inc epping forest)
heron
bibby

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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #19 on: Monday 21 January 08 18:21 GMT (UK) »
George (aka Lazzy) Smith - who was one of the leaders of this ball-giving group - was a cousin to my 2xgreat-grandmother Lementeni Smith. He was a son of Elizabeth Smith, the grandmother of Logan Lee. So they're all very much family.

My Smiths travelled with the Chilcotts, Lees, Boswells and Youngs/Herons in East Anglia who made up this group so I always collect references to them. Happy to share my info.

Sharon
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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 24 January 08 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Probably a longshot, but don't suppose anyone would know if a family with parents John Lee and Mary Langhorn (?sp), who apparently moved from England to in or around Bothwell parish (possibly Thankerton, Holytown) and had children there in 1850's or 1860's, are linked in anyway to the Lees mentioned on this thread.

CitizenSmith, the Bellahill (?), in one of your posts above will have been Bellshill.
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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 24 January 08 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Don't think I can help with your John Lee. As far as I know, the only John Lee in my group was the husband of Leviathan and father of Logan and Nathan - and he only had one wife.

Sharon
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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 26 January 08 12:34 GMT (UK) »
hi all,
i think in reply to leeboy, that we should all go visit him to see all these photos of these ancestors. i wish i lived next door to him ;D
theres nothing like a photo, is there!
amanda
buckley
webb
boswell (shadrack line)
pearse
lee
smith (inc epping forest)
heron
bibby

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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 01 November 09 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dipsys Dad

With a bit of detective work, I've at last managed to find the answer to your original question.

Logan Lee died in Ireland, where his death certificate describes him as the 12-year-old 'child of a Gipsy'.

His cause of death was scrofula which he had suffered for 5 years. I understand this is a form of TB affecting the lymphatic glands, mainly in children.

Best wishes
Sharon 
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Draper
Hope
Shaw
Gray
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Lovell
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"Royal Epping Forest Gypsies": ball-giving group
"Borrow's Gypsies": the people that the novelist George Borrow (1803-1881) knew and wrote about

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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 01 November 09 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for finding this out. I am absolutely delighted to finally find out what happened to Logan. Only thing is, if he died in Ireland, how on earth did he end up in Cathcart?
Again, many thanks.

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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 01 November 09 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I've been puzzling over this myself. It was an extraordinarily long way to convey a body at that period - and why they chose Cathcart is another mystery.

I shall do a little more delving. Perhaps Logan was in fact buried in Ireland but the monument to him was raised in Scotland? Not sure if you can do that without stating on the memorial that the body is in fact elsewhere.

Best wishes
Sharon
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Taylor - East Anglia
Draper
Hope
Shaw
Gray
Boswell
Lovell
Robinson
Chilcott
All Blackpool Gypsies
"Royal Epping Forest Gypsies": ball-giving group
"Borrow's Gypsies": the people that the novelist George Borrow (1803-1881) knew and wrote about

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Re: Logan Lee
« Reply #26 on: Monday 02 November 09 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Puzzler, isn't it? The inscription on the stone states clearly that he is under it.
The other side gives his grandmother's (Elizabeth Smith) details, but no reference to her burial site.
 There is, however, another Gipsy buried in the kirkyard namely one Joseph Cooper. Might it be a relative or similar?
Thanks again,
John C.