Logan Lee

[dipsys dad]

 Right, back again. As I was saying, over the past 20-30 years the churchyard has been vandalised to the ground. Most of the remaining upright markers have been taken away for safety reasons, and the horizontal ones are a mess of broken glass and syringes.
 Enough, however of that. I am curious about the description of Logan's grave as a book. That is the last thing it look's like!
  You also mention a John Cooper being buried nearby. I remember the stone being there, as it was pointed out to me by the minister many years ago, but, sadly, it is long gone. However, the name on it was definitely Robert Cooper.
 Have we got the same person? He was, along with Logan, frequently mentioned as a Gypsy, but nobody knew any more, until now.
 Well, that's about it. Thanks a million for your help, and I hope I have helped you a wee bit too.

 Cheers,   John.

[CitizenSmith]

Thanks for the update - though sad to hear about the fate of the kirkyard and the monuments. One day I hope to get to Glasgow and see them for myself.

There are also some members of this same Smith/Lee family buried in the Necropolis, again with a big monument. You can see it here:

www.glasgownecropolis.org/index.php?id=78

This Corlinda Lee is the wife of George (aka Lazzy) Smith, the brother of Elizabeth Smith, and therefore the great-aunt of Logan.

By the way: do you happen to know where the burial records and lair records for Cathcart kirkyard might be for the period when Logan died? I'm hoping they might hold a clue as to where he died - and if his mother is buried there too.

Many thanks for your information.

Sharon

[rootbeer]

hi everyone' im fully related to the Lee's that you are righting about' they still live in scotland now'  years ago the did tell queen victoirs fortune and also won 10 gold meddals for fourtun telling we have many privet photo's of the people your speaking about' but as its family i cant put them on'.. but it woud be good to know who your are if you are related to them them you are related to my family'' all the best!!

[CitizenSmith]

George Smith and Corlinda Lee were first cousins to my great-great-grandmother Lementeni Smith. She's a grand-daughter of Ambrose Smith the elder: uncle of the Ambrose Smith who travelled into Scotland and changed his name to Reynolds.

My Lementeni Smith was a Blackpool fortune-teller who lived on the beach at South Shore from around 1875 to 1910 on the site where the Pleasure Beach is now. She then moved into a house in Layton Road. She's buried in Layton Cemetery close to the monuments to the Blackpool Boswells, Curls, Robinsons, Townsends, Youngs and Herons: she was closely related to them all.

It would be great to see your photos as I only have a couple of old ones from this time.

Thanks for replying. It's good to make contact!

Sharon

[rootbeer]

Hi sharon. i wish you were next door to me lol' there is so much i could show you and tell you about these people'.
some are my grt grany and grandad or auntys or cousons lol'
the boswels lees ' herons ' winter' young' robson' smiths' shaws'  that you are related to still are one big family.  some live in scotland and some in blackpool.. i would love to show you some photo's but my family wont even let me put them on my website lol. you see some of my auntys and uncles are in ther 90's and the old people are still there close family'..
i have a full couson who is direct line back to logon lee' ther is picturs with them with queen victoria and pantings of wagons at the castile..im sorry i cant put stuf on but as i say its family stuff..all the very best..

[dipsys dad]

 Re the parish kirk records. Well, they used to live in the manse, but since that is now flats I inquired into the Church of Scotland in Edinburgh. They told me that all parish registers, burial records, etc, are lodged in Register House in Edinburgh. Unfortunately they are not on line (yet) so I'm afraid this means a somewhat expensive trip to the Capital to get a hold of them.
Cheers,
 John.

[CitizenSmith]

Many thanks for your help - it's really appreciated. And a good excuse for a trip to Edinburgh!

Sharon

[social-butterflies]

hello all,
have been reading your ''chat'' with interest and have recognised many of the names that you are all mentioning.
i have a rhoda heron who married clark boswell and their son levi who married a mary ann lee, daughter of charles lee & union chilcott. i also have the brothers,  elijah, sam, hirum and joiner buckley and their wives (seni smith & elizabeth smith) in my tree.
what i never knew was that they were in scotland. this has been very interesting. i will keep on with my search with some of the new names i found through your chat, many thanks. kushti bok
amanda

 

[CitizenSmith]

Hi Amanda

You should also look at Cheshire and Lancashire for East Anglian Lees as some were members of the Blackpool community.

Also Union Lee/Chilcott is commemorated on a monument in Flaybrick Cemetery, Birkenhead, with her mother Ruth Chilcott and her brother Charles. This is the same cemetery where Logan Lee's grandmother Elizabeth is buried.

These Lees, Chilcotts and Smiths were associated with the "Royal Epping Forest Gypsies" who travelled England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and the Isle of Man in the 1860s and 1870s and held dances that were open to the public, as well as putting their encampment on exhibition. I've a special interest in them and pleased to share info.

Sharon