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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #108 on: Saturday 20 October 07 23:33 BST (UK) »
Joseph Stread Butterworth married Zilpha Ormerod in SepQ 1873,  She died SepQ 1887.
In 1891 he was with Eliza Jane nee Higgs in Battersea shown as unmarried but there is a marrage for them in MarQ 1891.  Shaun found him on his own - but married - in 1901. 

So what happened to Eliza?

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #109 on: Sunday 21 October 07 09:40 BST (UK) »
Euclid is travelling with Mary Elizabeth Butterworth age 37, housewife,
Nearest Relative in Country where Alien came from

Euclid...
Brother JB Butterworth, 65 The Chase, Clapham C......?, London

Aunt Mrs. Sharp

Mary Elizabeth
89 Northgate Clarkheaton (?), York
Sister Mrs. Sunderland

Final Destination: New York, New York

Karen




Mary Elizabeth's identity has become clearer!

On the LDS site there is a submitted record:

Mary Elizabeth Abbey born 2 June 1873   Lofthouse, , Yorkshire, England
 
Death:  2 June 1966   Port Melbourne Vct, , , Australia
 
Burial:  6 June 1966   Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
 
Father:  Paul Abbey
Mother:  Mary Spence     
   
Marriages:
  Spouse:  Euclid or Hugh Hope Butterworth or Thornton   
  Marriage:  MAY 1910   
 

There is another submitted record for Eugene Hope Butterworth born 15 March 1860 in Tilehurst, Berkshire, died 25 May 1932.

Mary Abbey was a schoolteacher in Lofthouse with Carlton ( where Euclid was headmaster).  

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« Reply #110 on: Sunday 21 October 07 10:57 BST (UK) »
Euclid's first wife Florence Isabel Butterworth died in Carlton nr Wakefield on 16 January 1950 and is buried at Lofthouse Burial Ground ( Per The Times 20/1/1950).

Can't find a GRO index record for Euclid's 2nd marriage, to Mary Elizabeth Abbey. I wonder why he changed his name to Hugh Thornton.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #111 on: Sunday 21 October 07 11:33 BST (UK) »
I think this is another of Euclid and Florence's daughters, who also became a  head teacher:

Florence Daisy Butterworth
(Born Wakefield RD 4Q 1889 per the GRO)


Teachers Registration 1927  No:74818

BoE Certificate
Teachers Music Certificate

Training: Lincoln Diocesan Training College

Experience:

Assistant Mistress Old Church Infants School Darlaston Staffs 1910-1915
Head Mistress Short Heath Infants School nr Wolverhampton 1915-1923
Head Mistress Clewer S Stephen Junior School Windsor 1923-1930
Head Mistress Clewer S Stephen Senior Girls School Windsor 1930 -

These registers were discontinued in 1948 and were presumably up to date at that point.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #112 on: Sunday 21 October 07 11:55 BST (UK) »
Albert Hope Butterworth and his wife Ann Curry had a daughter Freda Butterworth who graduated from  Girton College Cambridge in 1917 per this snippet on Google Books:

 http://www.google.co.uk/books?id=MdIbAAAAIAAJ&q=hope+butterworth&dq=hope+butterworth&pgis=1

Can anyone find the rest of her entry in the Girton College Graduates Register?

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #113 on: Sunday 21 October 07 12:11 BST (UK) »
Posted earlier - we have Euclid Hope BUTTERWORTH emigrating to the US, arriving in Boston in September and going on to New York.  His nearest relative in the UK was J B Butterworth, his brother, who I think we believe is J S BUTTERWORTH (Joseph Stead).  His travelling companion is Mary E BUTTERWORTH ( a housewife) from Cleckheaton in Yokshire.

Shaun has found the death of Florence BUTTERWORTH - Euclid's wife on the 1901 Census in Carlton - in 1950.  She died in the same place.

I don''t think he was married to Mary E BUTTERWORTH.  I note they were travelling companions.  I presume there was nothing on the Passenger List that recorded the relationsnip between them.

With the submitted entries on the IGI relating to these two It appears that someone else is / or has been trying to research  the family.   (I can imagins someone saying "Your great grandpas name was Eugene - or something like that ")  :) :) :) :)

However Mary E has died in Melbourne in Australia in 1966.   Was she there on her own? Had she left Euclid?   Are there any US records that may help?

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« Reply #114 on: Sunday 21 October 07 14:33 BST (UK) »
Reiver has pointed out that someone has overwritten "Abbey" against Mary Elizabeth's name on that 1910 passenger manifest so her identity must have been discovered when she entered the US. Now why didn't I notice that?

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #115 on: Sunday 21 October 07 15:00 BST (UK) »
Just to sum up where we are on Robert Stead's Butterworth cousins:

Adeliza (1852) - no known children by age 48 - assumed no descendants

Joseph S (1855) - no known children by age 45 - but 4th time married in 1907 - possible offspring?

Richard ( 1857) - 2 children Sidney H and Margaret C living in Walton-on-the-Hill Liverpool in 1901.

Albert H ( 1859) - 4 children Amy, Doris, Freda and Eris (?) all living in 1901. Freda appears to be unmarried in 1937 (she was a donor to the  Cambridge Preservation Society)

Arthur S
(1866) - still unmarried in 1901 aged 35

Euclid H (1860) - had 5 children with Florence. Elsie and Florence seem to be unmarried as of 1948 per the Teachers Register; nothing is known of ConstanceRoy Steads Butterworth d.1984 - no information on any family as yet; Euclid D died 1901 aged 14.
Did Euclid H have any children with Mary Abbey?

Mary H (1861) - married Isaac Thomas Hawkins - 4 children living in 1901: Lionel, Beatrice, Kathleen and Gwendoline Hawkins.

Postscript  - Lieutenant Lionel Hope Hawkins was killed in France in 1914


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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #116 on: Sunday 21 October 07 15:58 BST (UK) »


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