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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 12:02 BST (UK) »
Hi All
Was William Harley really a nephew????   To whom? 

1871
Liverpool   RG10/3756  F 118  P 1
Jno Thos Jarvis   H       30   Shipping Clerk     Oadby
Betty Jarvis         W    38                                 Leicester
Jno Wm Jarvis     S             10   Scholar                 Oadby
Alice Jarvis          D              9    -do-                       Oadby
Wm Harley Stead  Nephew  14  Sailor                   Leicester
The county in each case is Leicestershire

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 12:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Reiver

Just PM'd you details! Will just quickly summarise here for everyone since I've already looked it up!

Betsy JARVIS was nee STEADS, I believe - she was the sister named Elizabeth in 1841 and 1851 that you mention.

Marriage:  Jun Qtr 1860 - Blaby District, Leicestershire
John Thomas JARVIS and Betsy STEADS

In 1891, Anglea STEAD is visioing this same JARVIS family  ;D

The son, John William JARVIS never marrried, at least not up to 1901.

The daughter Alice JARVIS married John TITTERINGTON in West Derby 1887.
They had 2 children, John Bertram TITTERINGTON and Dorothy May TITTETRINGTON

Cheers  ;D
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 12:12 BST (UK) »
Marriage in Blaby 2Q 1860 7a 108

Jarvis  John Thomas     
Steads  Betsy     






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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 12:19 BST (UK) »
1861: Oadby, Leicestershire
Ref: RG9 /P   2255 /  F  85 /  Pg 9
Address: Meeting Lane
Head: Priscilla JARVIS 54, Wid, Farmer 41 acres, employing 1 man, b Hungwiton, Leic.
Dau: Mariah JARVIS 17, unm, b Oadby Leic.
Son: John T JARVIS 20, marr, Farmers Son, b Oadby Leic
Dau in Law: Betsy JARVIS marr, Farmers Wife,  b  Leicester, Leic.
Grandson: John W JARVIS 6 mhs, b Oadby Leic.
Lodger: Lydia R BLACKWELL 10, Scholar, b  Leicester, Leic.
Visitor: Sarah SMITH 10, Scholar, b  Leicester, Leic.
Servant: Richard SMITH 65, unm, Carter, b Thurmaston Leic.

1871: Liverpool St Matthews, (Scotland Ward) , Lancashire
Ref: RG10 /  P   3756 / F   118 /  pg 1
Address: 4 Wilbraham Street
Head: John Thos JARVIS 30, Shipping Clerk,  b Oadby, Leic.
Wife: Besty JARVIS 38, b  Leicester, Leic.
Son: John Wm, JARVIS 10, b Oadby, Leic.
Dau: Alice JARVIS 9,  b Oadby, Leic.
Nephew: Wm Harley STEAD 14, Sailor, b  Leicester, Leic.

So - if William Harley STEAD is their truly  Nephew , then William's mother is a sibling of Betsy.....and Besty is the sister of Harriet, Fanny and Angela.......

1881: Liverpool, Lancashire
Ref: RG11 /  P  3593; F 128; Pg 106
Address: 24 Virgil Street
Head: John Tho. JARVIS 40, Shipping Clerk, b Oadby, Leic.
Wife: Betsy JARVIS 48, b St Margaret, Leic
Dau: Alice JARVIS 19, unm, b Oadby, Leic.
Lodger: Thomas H....son JUDD or DODD? 29, unm, Engine Fitter, Ayrshire Scotland

1891: Rowley Park, Castle Church, West Staffordshire
Ref: RG12; P  2138; F  95; Pg 17
Address: 2 Tixall Villas
Head: John T JARVIS 50, Shipping Clerk, b Oadby, Leic.
Wife: Betsy  JARVIS 59, b Oadby, Leic.
Son: John W JARVIS 30, unm, Organising Visitors of Church Schools, b Oadby, Leic.
Visitor: Angela STEAD 48, School Mistress, b  Leicester, Leic.

The 1891 visitor, is actually Betsy's sister?

Believe John Thomas JARVIS may have died very shortly after the 1891 Census, Jun Qtr 1891 Stafford, age 51

Believe Betsy JARVIS may have died, Dec Qtr 1899 Ormskirk (this was the Registration district which covered Formby - she may have gone to live with her daughter Alice after JT died).

The son John William JARVIS  appears to have not married as late as 1901 age 40, where he is in Chelsea, as a Schools Head Master .

Believe the JARVIS daughter Alice, married :
Dec Qtr 1887 West Derby - Alice JARVIS & John TITTERINGTON

1891: Great Crosby, Lancashire
Ref: RG12; P  2983; F  87; PPg  47
Address:  8 Cambridge Court (near Millions COurt!)
Head: John TITTERINGTON 29, Schoolmaster, b Liverpool Lancs
Wife: Alice TITTERINGTON 29, b Oadby Leic.
Son: John B TITTERINGTON 2,  b Liverpool Lancs
Servant: Jane HUNTER 25, unm, General Domestic Servant, b b Liverpool Lancs

1901: Formby, Lancashire
Ref: RG13; P  3532; F  77; Pg  1.
Address: Old Town Lane
Head: John TITTERINGTON 39, School Master & Science Teacher, b
Wife: Alice TITTERINGTON 39, b Oadby, Leic.
Dau: Dorothy May TITTERINGTON 7, b Formby, Lancashire
Servant: Elizabreth GALLIGAN 20, unm, General Domestic Servant, b Derby, Derbyshire

The son, John Bertram TITTERINGTON, is I think at school in Staffs in 1901

cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 12:33 BST (UK) »
Brilliant AMBLY :) :) :) :)
I was just struggling with her.   

Next for Joseph  :) :)   I'll concentrate on Harriett - unless anybody else is already?

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 14:53 BST (UK) »
Can I have some help please?
A street that is/was in Kirkdale,Liverpool in 1881.
Reads like Pelops or Peloss Street.
Enumerator did it after Ajax Street.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 14:57 BST (UK) »



   Hi Reiver.....

 PELOPS STREET KIRKDALE


            Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 16:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tazzie
I knew somebody would know  :)

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 16:20 BST (UK) »
Again - a street question - but in Birmingam
What appears in 1881 to be Muntry Street,  Aston.

It was the home of a 'cousin'  of William Harley.
His name was Euclid Butterworth and son of Richard Butterworth and Harriett. 

Can we agree - unti proved one way or another - that William Harley was indeed the illegitimate son of Fanny Maria?    Or not?  :)   

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