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DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« on: Monday 22 March 04 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Richard Down, born 1734 in England. He died 26 Jul 1814. Richard married Rose (DOWN) on 1770 in London, England.

Their daughter, Clara DOWN was born 7 Jan 1792 in Colne Hatch, Middlesex and was christened 21 Jan 1793 in St Bartholomew Exchange, London.
She married Samuel Gilbert Crompton in 1814 in Freiern Barnet.
Other children of Richard and Rose
Anne DOWN
Mary DOWN b: 1777 in England
John DOWN b: 8 Jun 1780 in London,England
Henry DOWN b: 25 Nov 1789
Harriett DOWN b: 26 Jan 1797
Richard DOWN b: 20 Jan 1773
Julie DOWN b: 5 Jul 1794 in London,England
Rose DOWN b: 18 Feb 1774

Looking for descendents of Clara, but also the other children.
Also looking for more information about Richard and Rose.
Stuck with:
William Williams of Llanllyfni
John Jones in Llanelli
Evan Evans in Caio
David Davies of Llansanffraid
Evans: Caio/Carms
Jones: CDG, DEN

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

"Nor do I think that any other nation than this of Wales, or any other tongue, whatever may hereafter come to pass, shall on the day of the great reckoning before the Most High Judge, answer for this corner of the earth": The Old Man of Pencader to Henry II

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Re:DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 March 04 14:11 BST (UK) »

I've been able to find out a bit more, i.e who the children married:

Anne DOWN m: John White
Rose DOWN m: Richard Cade Key
Mary DOWN  m: Cornelius Buller
John DOWN  m: Anne Nelson
Henry DOWN m: Meliora Lodington
Clara DOWN  m: S.G. Crompton
Julie DOWN  m: James Britton
Harriett DOWN m: William Fitch
Stuck with:
William Williams of Llanllyfni
John Jones in Llanelli
Evan Evans in Caio
David Davies of Llansanffraid
Evans: Caio/Carms
Jones: CDG, DEN

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

"Nor do I think that any other nation than this of Wales, or any other tongue, whatever may hereafter come to pass, shall on the day of the great reckoning before the Most High Judge, answer for this corner of the earth": The Old Man of Pencader to Henry II

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Re: DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 February 09 19:41 GMT (UK) »
D ap D,

I am related to Meliora Lodington (who married Henry Down, son of Richard Down, of Halliwick Manor House, Middlesex and his wife Rose Neale), do you have any further details re: the Lodingtons?

My link is via her brother Ensign Thomas Edward Lodington (born 22 Jan. 1797, chr. 9 Apr. 1797, Old Church, St. Pancras, buried 1845).

The Keys had at least two children:

1. William Down Key, born 14 Oct. 1812, chr. 14 Nov. 1812, St. Mary, Marylebone
2. Rose Key, born 20 May 1814, chr. 18 Jun. 1814, St. Mary, Marylebone (she married Rev. Barrett Edward Lampet and had three children -- I can supply more information if required)

Cornelius Buller was Governor of the Bank of England and had two sisters who both married into the Pole (alias Van Notten-Pole) family.  I do not know anything more about him.

Emma Down married Rev. William Money, later Money-Kyrle, Rector of Yatesbury, Wiltshire.  They had 8 children.

Henry Down married Meliora Lodington and had 17 children.  Again, I can supply further information if required.

The other siblings and their wives/husbands and issue, I am still searching for.

How do you link to this family?

Regards,

James R. Yeowell.
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Re: DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 February 09 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi James,

I am descended from Clara Down, your Henry's younger sister.

Not got much on the Lodingtons, but can send you what I do have.

Have got a load of info about Richard Down (their father), photos of the grave etc. and an ancestry going back several more generations.

Rose (Clara and Henrys mother) was related to Oliver Cromwell, so I can also send you that link.

Will PM you my email address.

Dewi
Stuck with:
William Williams of Llanllyfni
John Jones in Llanelli
Evan Evans in Caio
David Davies of Llansanffraid
Evans: Caio/Carms
Jones: CDG, DEN

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

"Nor do I think that any other nation than this of Wales, or any other tongue, whatever may hereafter come to pass, shall on the day of the great reckoning before the Most High Judge, answer for this corner of the earth": The Old Man of Pencader to Henry II


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Re: DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 September 10 03:04 BST (UK) »
D,
I know this post was some time ago but I just came across it - having returned to my Down ancestors after doing other branches.
I am descended from Richard Down son of Henry Down and Meliora Lodington. I would be most interested in any information and photos of graves or memorials.
Richard Down came to Australia and was a Customs Officer in Melbourne. My great grandmother Emily Lodington Down was born in Richmond Victoria in 1854 and married David Barker in 1878.

Lorraine
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Australia
Down - Colney Hatch, Tiverton Devon, Pilton Devon, East Down Devon;
Barker - Dumfries Scotland, Castlemaine Victoria, Sydney Australia;
Lodington - London
Rutherford - Dumfries, Earlston, Hownam, Chatto
Maxwell - Dumfries, Munches
Harris - Newcastle on Tyne
Mann - Gloucester
Wheare - Cornwall
Morris - NSW; Victoria
Anseline - NSW
Fenwick - NSW; Newcastle upon Tyne

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Re: DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 February 11 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Lorraine,

Do you perhaps have any further information on the Lodington line, as I am of course related to you via them?

Feel free to PM me with any details.

Thanks

James.
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Pershall/Peshall (Horsley)
Ward (Lambeth, Bloomsbury & Westminster)
Stevens (Paddington & Oxford)
Hold (Newington & Winchmore Hill)
Ginger (Great Gaddesden & Flamstead)
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Re: DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 March 11 09:45 GMT (UK) »
James,
Is there anything you are particularly wanting, I am currently working my way through your scavenger hunt to see if there is anything there I missed.
Lorraine

Later: Something more to add. I was checking a 1911 census page for another branch of my tree when I saw that they had a servant named Henrietta Marie Dyer Lodington. My interest was immediately peeked - I went looking.

Henrietta was the youngest daughter of the ill fated George Edward Dyer Lodington and his wife Louisa. Further digging found that her parents were married in 1873 and that his father was William Lodington.
Cannot as yet find his birth or baptism but did locate an Edward Horace Dyer Lodington's baptism in Secunderabad, Madras in 1863 - his date of birth is listed as 17 Mar 1840. His parents are listed as William Lodington and Harriett.

India is definitely worth looking at as George, in his evidence at his wife's inquest mentions being in the Battle of Punjab.

It may also be worth checking the non-conformist registers as certainly some of William Stewart Lodington's children are shown as non-conformist baptisms. I wonder if the C of E details are after a non-conformist event.

Also in The Times of 28 Nov 1820 "William Stewart Lodington married Sarah, eldest daughter of the late William Day, Pas Capt. R.N. and Governor of Sierra-Leone"

From Gentlemen's Magazine 1791 p. 873 - Marriages of Considerable Persons: Sep. 22 Thos. Lodington Esq. of Lamb's Conduit, one of the Secondaries of the Court of Common Pleas, To Miss Day, of New Norfolk Street, daughter of the late John D. esq. of the Island of Antigua".

More checking to do.
Lorraine
Down - Colney Hatch, Tiverton Devon, Pilton Devon, East Down Devon;
Barker - Dumfries Scotland, Castlemaine Victoria, Sydney Australia;
Lodington - London
Rutherford - Dumfries, Earlston, Hownam, Chatto
Maxwell - Dumfries, Munches
Harris - Newcastle on Tyne
Mann - Gloucester
Wheare - Cornwall
Morris - NSW; Victoria
Anseline - NSW
Fenwick - NSW; Newcastle upon Tyne

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Re: DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 April 11 17:16 BST (UK) »
Lorraine,

Apologies for the delay.  I have only just come across your reply.  I shall reply in more depth later, as I have to pop out now.  What have you found is excellent though!

I was just now looking at the two Day ladies and you've solved the issue of their father's names.  I still believe perhaps that John Day and William Day are related, so I shall hopefully find a link soon.  Although Sarah Day was not related to me (well, she could be if she's related to Ann Lodington (née Day), her mother-in-law) it's still interesting to find out who her father is finally.

As you may be aware, it seems this Sarah Day was born in Yeovil, Somerset circa 1800 and had a sister Harriet Day born circa 1802 in Kent Road, London.  Harriet married an Aaron Saul and had two children.

I shall return later with more of my thoughts.

Thanks again for solving a small barrier in my tree.  I can pursue the ancestry of Ann Day, who is my 5th Great Grandmother.

Best regards,

James R. Yeowell.
Yeowell (everywhere)
Lodington (everywhere)
Gerrard (Stoke Abbot)
Day (Antigua & London)
Broade (Benefield, Southwick, Turnastone, Mordiford)
Hereford (Sufton)
Pershall/Peshall (Horsley)
Ward (Lambeth, Bloomsbury & Westminster)
Stevens (Paddington & Oxford)
Hold (Newington & Winchmore Hill)
Ginger (Great Gaddesden & Flamstead)
Chidwick (Paddington, Chalfont St. Peter &Trowbridge)
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Re: DOWN, Colney Hatch/Freiern Barnet ca. 1800
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 April 11 20:03 BST (UK) »
Lorraine,

I have now had a bit of time to look into your searches a bit more and I have discovered that Capt. William Day, R.N., Governor of Sierra Leone, was son of John Day, of Antigua (via Stirnet).  Indeed, this link shows an Elizabeth Day marrying Charles Wills Walrond, 3rd son of Main Swete Walrond, 5th Marquis de Vallado.  This means I am also now related to Sarah Day who married William Stewart Lodington (as well as William Stewart Lodington himself).  It also may prove likely that perhaps they were slave owners, or may have ancestry that could link to this.  Is there anyway to prove such information, do you know?

Also via the above link, I may have family in St. Kitts and Venezuela.  Interesting!

Does The Times Archive (which I unfortunately do not have access to at home) have anything further in relation to the Day family?  I have found other individuals distantly linked to other people in my tree who could potentially be related as well.  Day, however, is not a unique surname and so I am sure many of these individuals do not share a link whatsoever.

Any new leads are most welcome indeed.  This family is proving even more interesting than first thought!  I never knew I had ancestors who lived in Antigua.

Addendum: further to the above, I have also found another daughter of Post Capt. William Day, R.N., Governor of Sierra Leone here: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4216795

I also found the corresponding marriage on Family Search.

To summarise this new individual:

Ellen Day, 2nd daughter of Post Capt. William Day, R.N., Governor of Sierra Leone (whom apparently died in 1805) married Dr. David Barry Conway, R.N, surgeon, on 23 September 1828 in Lee, Kent.

Also worth noting is that Aaron Saul was a labourer with the East India Company.

Best regards,

James R. Yeowell
Yeowell (everywhere)
Lodington (everywhere)
Gerrard (Stoke Abbot)
Day (Antigua & London)
Broade (Benefield, Southwick, Turnastone, Mordiford)
Hereford (Sufton)
Pershall/Peshall (Horsley)
Ward (Lambeth, Bloomsbury & Westminster)
Stevens (Paddington & Oxford)
Hold (Newington & Winchmore Hill)
Ginger (Great Gaddesden & Flamstead)
Chidwick (Paddington, Chalfont St. Peter &Trowbridge)
Parrett (Paddington, Romsey, Fisherton Delamere, Dinton & Broad Chalke)
Davis (Oxford)
Clarkson (Newington)